Someone Please Advise

1> VE is "avionixx" or Rather that is they "public Sale" brand, Similar to what RE and Desjtli are the same Company

2> Buying off Ebay and Buying from ED are Differant, In one case you KNOW the manufacturer will not honor the warrranty, in the other you have a Manufacturer Claiming to have a 3yr warranty but then tries everything they can to "back out" of the warranty..

I dont recommend Buying off Either, I have been in Car audio for a long long time, and have NEVER bought car audio from ebay and NEVER will, I have always found the SAME product at a Compairable (with in 10% or so) price from a Dealer (online or offiline) that I TRUST..

 

Well, you have a subwoofer. B)
You could pick up a 400w subwoofer amp for cheap, numerous ways. And a front stage amp to produce anywhere from 50x2-100x2 for around the same price, if you don't want to run off head unit power... which isn't necessarily horrible, as you save up for the eventual front stage amp.

Front speakers... I may be able to help you out there... again, one of numerous ways.

 

They HAVE to give you a refund. I wouldnt worry about that too much. If you want to ask for your receipt before asking for a refund I understand though.


Ok so Small ported enclosure. 400watts or less. SQ with some authority. For as little as possible.

Shiva may be out because they like a bit of airspace. I would look into the JL w3v2 or Infinity Perfect. I have had experience with both and they are both very nice subs. I personally favor the w3v2 though. A single ported 10w3v2 on 400watts is plenty loud. A 12 ported will likely fit your needs.

 

The w3v2 can be had on ebay for just over $100. I can recommend some good dealers that I have had great success with if you like.


Now that I think of it I do have a Viper 400.2 that does 400w @ 4ohms when bridged if you are interested. PM me on it.

 

Cool, I am glad you got everything taken care of.

I personally feel you made the right choice.

Now we just have to find you a replacement

 

I made a civilized post over at ICIX about the whole situation and I think eD blew a chance to get some much needed positive PR. We have all read how other companies have replaced products that were broken via abuse and as a result retained some lifetime customers and got some good press to boot. As a result of eD refuising to replace 2 mids, they lost 100s and maybe 1000s of dollars in sales. People read these threads and it stays in their minds. I know I won't ever be buying eD products based on situations like this.

I am no business guru, but I know that smaller, private companies sometimes need to swallow their pride and make the customer happy. It really should be thought of as an investment in their customer base. Keep in mind that if a given customer keeps abusing some speakers, for instance, and keeps returning them for warranty replacement, then the manufacturer has to draw the line. But don't draw the line for someone who has bought from you before and was even shafted on those transactions. I think eD let their egos get in the way of retaining a customer and getting some good press.

 

Basically that is what bugs me the most - this is just one of several instances I have read/heard about eD treating customers poorly. It's like they are 100% interested in getting product shipped and then forgetting about it afterward if and when problems arise. And in car audio, problems ARE going to happen after the sale - that is a given.

Another thing that kind of bugged me was that eD showed some pics of their nine.1 and then said "don't ask when they will be available". I'd be pretty peeved if I couldn't even get a hint as to when something I pre-ordered would be ready.

 

Gonz, please don't confuse WRMS with required wattage. The drivers in the enclosure you bought from Chris is rated above and beyond 400WRMS total, but the enclosure dictates that you use 400WRMS. Adire does not fudge their thermal rating at all. If it says 600WRMS we are talking at the most, the driver can handle 600 watts continuously for music, provided all the criteria are met. 300 watts in 1.25 to 1.5 feet sealed or 2 to 2.5 ported down low will equal the drivers mechanical powerhandleing, plus you are not heating the shit out of the coils. That equates to a longer lifespan of the driver, reduced thermal compression, and overall a more stable driver.

The Shiva will be $125, no shipping if you shop at the right places. Also, if you know the right people and whisper sweet nothings in their ear, you may be able to get a discount... or maybe they have a couple used Shivas laying around they may think about letting go... Or maybe not... They may have to think about that <_< .

Actually, come to think of it, Chris, does Nate want to sell any of his Shivas? I know that he had mentioned the possibility to me a while back, but I haven't seen him around in a long time. So who knows Gonz, there may be a Shiva or 2 in your forseeable future.

 

The viper amp would be a good amp, I'm sure.

A W3V2 unauthorized wouldn't be a good deal, IMO.
For the same money, you could have a Shiva, authorized.
And again... if customer service and warranty are even a small concern... it's a matter of "none, absolutely" vs. "full warranty authorized".
Not that the W3V2 isn't a good woofer.

The dual-chamber tri-vent boxes do need to be rather large to begin with... so you are talking about an enclosure that usually starts at around 3 cu.ft... more a function of the logistics of fitting the three ports in the enclosure - theoretically, they could be smaller, if it weren't for that.

That's one reason that they are more "generic" suitable in application than other enclosures, pretty much any 12" that is suitable in a ported enclosure will work in a 12" enclosure that's 3 cu.ft... not so true when you are talking about fitting subs into boxes on the small end of the spectrum.

 

Geo is right. If you feel the need for a warranty I would definately just get the Shiva. But with a great guy like Geo there to overlook your install and give advice you may never need one


And I found the JBL 180.2 on sale at SD for him.
http://www.cardomain.com/sku/JBLP1802

A little less power but cheaper than I am willing to sell the Viper Plus full warranty. Since price is one of his big issues it should work better. Plus with the efficiency of the dual chamber it should be fine.

 

Oooo, that'll go great with a Shiva... Gonz, YGPM

 

If it comes down to not wnating to spend tomuch and all, I'd just buy a freaking pyle setup or something you'd likely get better support than with eD, atleast you wouldn't have all of eD's minions cutting into every bit of your being. I've been bombarded with IM's etc since this, but in the end MY whole point of posting was to inform you, the potential customer...

In the end you're a big kid, make your own decisions, I've posted and said what I have to say for the most part, you can make up your mind based on what you've seen. I for one am shocked that you're evne still considering it a valid option. heck you could pick up a fairly decent ID driver for similar money. as for amps, there's TONS of 400w amps out there, many of them will do you jsut fine. The eD amps are manufactured by avionixxx who made Tsunami as well and for the record BOTH of my tsunami's have sofar required being sent in for service.