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Discussion in 'General Car Audio Discussions' started by sl0wm03, Dec 30, 2006.

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  1. DaveDSMer

    DaveDSMer Full Member

    so you have 10" subs ok let me think. What you drew there could work but trying to divide the subs in seperate chambers could prove to be a nightmare. Let me see if I can draw you a picture of an idea that popped into my head. One minute.
     
    DaveDSMer, Jan 1, 2007
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  2. DaveDSMer

    DaveDSMer Full Member

    Maybe think about something like this. Basically 2 boxes loaded with 2 10's each. One firing forward and the other at a slant to fit them in the space provided. The amp is mounted on that hump in the middle.

    Here is a rough picture of what I mean... this is looking down at the truck.

    [​IMG]
     
    DaveDSMer, Jan 1, 2007
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  3. TheViking

    TheViking Well-Known Member

    Thats a good idea dave...I would much rather see woofers firing in the same general plane as opposed toi firing in 2 tottally different directions.....


    Of course, themain thing here, is making sure that the enclosure is adequate for the drivers......On a limited budget, it is critical to maintain maximim efficiency for the SPL he wants.
     
    TheViking, Jan 1, 2007
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  4. sl0wm03

    sl0wm03 Full Member

    Yes I like that idea, then I thought about what pedro has said about the size, so I thought about it... When I sit down, my legs do bend, so i asked my sister what she measured, she masured it from the back of the seat, and pulled it to the front.
    So i got out there with some tape.. from door to door is 52 inches from door to door. Starting from the back of the seat to the front of the seat is about 18 to 20 inches. The height of the chair is about 10 and a half inches. But Dave, with your idea i really like it. How much space extra would the sub need until the top of the box. bout an inch or 2? I could be able to slant the box But still use your idea. Tell me if you understand me

    see if you think this, i heard that they sound better with airholes but im not sure what makes them good... [​IMG]

    12 inch long box, with 10" subs in it (don't know if thats enough space)
     
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    sl0wm03, Jan 2, 2007
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  5. DaveDSMer

    DaveDSMer Full Member

    I see what you mean. That would work as far as slanting them as long as the sub isnt super deep. I would prolly just use a sealed enclosure at this point. Putting a port firing up like that would not work very well because the port needs at least 6" of clearance. The air wouldnt move right with the seat right on top of it like that. Plus you need much more internal air space if you are using a ported set up.
     
    DaveDSMer, Jan 3, 2007
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  6. sl0wm03

    sl0wm03 Full Member

    Alright. So no airhole needed. Would I need to put the exterior, I'm not sure what it'scalled but looks like carpet. What size should the box be, is 12 inches enough? 1 inch of space at the bottom, top, left, right.
    Inside the box. Would I have to make 1 box and set them both in there, or would I need to divide the subs into their own compartment.... gosh i really need to learn the words of these. The little cable thing. I would need 4 of those. The black and red part right in the middle of this pic
    http://www.titantalk.com/forums/att...c-sub-box-amp-rack-new-sub06.jpg?d=1107489571
    Then insulation. I'm kindof making a list of what I need. But I don't know the name. Wires ofcourse.
    I don't wanna make a box, then have to do something else to it or have to go all the way back to my uncles and put another hole for the.. little back and red thing.

    [​IMG]
     
    sl0wm03, Jan 3, 2007
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  7. DaveDSMer

    DaveDSMer Full Member

    well first of all, what kind of subs do you have so we can kinda figure out how much air space they are going to want for a sealed enclosure. Second, to build a box like you are trying with the angles like that you need to be a pretty good carpenter to match the angles just right to make an air tight seal. Third, I would try to seal off each chamber for each sub.
     
    DaveDSMer, Jan 3, 2007
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  8. sl0wm03

    sl0wm03 Full Member

    Well first of all, can you tell me which one would be better? I want the better of these 2 below.


    » 10" 4-ohm subwoofer
    » polypropylene woofer cone with large-roll rubber surround
    » innovative basket design minimizes depth
    » progressive spider design for excellent cone control
    » frequency response: 25-400 Hz
    » power range: 60-250 watts RMS (1,000 watts peak power)
    » sensitivity: 91 dB
    » top-mount depth: 4-9/16"
    » sealed box volume: .75 cu. ft.
    » ported box volume: 1.75 cu. ft.
    » Recommended Q-Logic Box Type: 1

    or

    » 10" 4-ohm subwoofer
    » 5-sided polypropylene cone with foamed rubber surround
    » power range: 50-200 RMS watts (800 watts peak power)
    » frequency response: 27-3000 Hz
    » senstitivity: 88 dB
    » mounting depth: 4-15/16"
    » sealed box volume: 0.59 cu. ft.
    » ported box volume: 0.91 cu. ft.


    I'm not a carpenter but my uncle knows all about wood. He's got a shop full of all kinds of tools.
     
    sl0wm03, Jan 3, 2007
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  9. TheViking

    TheViking Well-Known Member

    going on the posted info alone, i would go for the first one.....
     
    TheViking, Jan 3, 2007
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  10. aznboi3644

    aznboi3644 Full Member

    Well the second one is a Sony Xplode so I'd say go for the first one...but why not just post the model names???

    Sony sucks
     
    aznboi3644, Jan 3, 2007
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  11. DaveDSMer

    DaveDSMer Full Member

    id go for the 1st one. Looks like an infinty 10.1 or similar. You may want to look into Ascendant Audio's Assassin line if you are looking at subs like these to buy. I thought you already had 4 tens or we would have went through this earlier.
     
    DaveDSMer, Jan 4, 2007
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  12. sl0wm03

    sl0wm03 Full Member

    Yea, the reason I posted info is because to see what really does count instead of going with model or brand name. The first one was Infinity 10" and the second is Xplod. If ya'll can find some other ones, then post it if you would like.
    I'm a random person. I plan before I get so I know what I will be doing. The subs were out of stock at best buy, circuit city and on a couple of websites I have checked. Where is Ascendant Audio's Assassin?
     
    sl0wm03, Jan 4, 2007
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  13. DaveDSMer

    DaveDSMer Full Member

    DaveDSMer, Jan 4, 2007
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  14. pedro quiroga

    pedro quiroga Well-Known Member

    pedro quiroga, Jan 5, 2007
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  15. sl0wm03

    sl0wm03 Full Member

    Yeaaaa... Ok well I'm going to have to create some graphics first and see what measure and what you all would think about it. If theres any other good subs or something to look at then post them.

    What is Dual Voice Coil?
     
    sl0wm03, Jan 5, 2007
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  16. sl0wm03

    sl0wm03 Full Member

    Not sure how deep they should be.

    [​IMG]

    [​IMG]

    Those are what I'm stuck with.







    Alright, I expanded my buying range. Once again I put descriptions of certain things. Ya'll are helping me a s**** load



    Number 1

    » 10" 4-ohm subwoofer
    » pearl mica injection-molded polypropylene woofer cone with urethane surround
    » typhoon design cone surface for improved rigidity and dampened resonance
    » extended pole piece and bumped back plate for increased cone travel
    » power-range: 35-175 watts RMS (800 watts peak power)
    » frequency response: 28-800 Hz
    » sensitivity: 91 dB
    » top mount depth: 4-9/16"
    » sealed box volume: 0.60-1.25 cubic feet
    » ported box volume: 0.75-1.50 cubic feet


    Number 2

    » 10" 4-ohm subwoofer
    » Kevlar®-treated pulp woofer cone
    » high-excursion Santoprene rubber surround
    » dual oversized Nomex® spiders
    » frequency response: 32-1,000 Hz
    » power range: 50-250 watts RMS
    » peak power: 750 watts
    » sensitivity: 87 dB
    » top-mount depth: 5-3/4"
    » sealed box volume: 0.6-1.25 cu. ft

    Is RMS like Per Coil? The coil is the sub when it moves?

    Number 3
    » 10" sub with dual 4-ohm voice coils
    » suitable for marine use
    » injection-molded polymineral cone
    » double-stitched, foam-ribbed Santoprene rubber surround
    » frequency response: 25-500 Hz
    » power handling: 50-300 watts RMS
    » peak power: 600 watts
    » sensitivity: 85.5 dB
    » top-mount depth: 5-9/16"
    » sealed box volume: 0.8-3.0 cu. ft.
    » ported box volume: 1.25-1.75 cu. ft.
     
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    sl0wm03, Jan 5, 2007
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  17. DaveDSMer

    DaveDSMer Full Member

    I would try to get a single 4 ohm voice coil or dual 2 ohm voice coils on the subs so you can wire them to 1 ohm load.
     
    DaveDSMer, Jan 6, 2007
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  18. aznboi3644

    aznboi3644 Full Member

    Number two because I like Alpine Type E subs...first one sucks...I don't like Kenwood subs.

    Second one is a cvr
     
    aznboi3644, Jan 6, 2007
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  19. sl0wm03

    sl0wm03 Full Member

    Okay... Now I'm kindof changing subjects from Subs to Speakers.
    What advantages does speakers like 4x6 have over a 6 inch speaker?
    I see how Subs are like blasting with 800 watts and all of this. I look at the speakers and their peak power is like 300 watts. Will that cause a problem with them? I need 4x6 in the back and 6in in the front.
    Not sure what to look for since everything is like 600 watts under the subs.
     
    sl0wm03, Jan 6, 2007
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  20. pedro quiroga

    pedro quiroga Well-Known Member

    you can leave the stock speakers in the rear and run them off of the radio.as for the doors????well just buy something that sounds good to YOU.

    i helped a friend put in some gear a truck like yours.polk db 6.5's.they sound nice for just haveing radio power.

    i'm not saying go out and get those. cause you may not like thier sound.i'v heard them in his and was pleased by the output.

    as for the advantage of a 4x6 compaired to a 6.5.the 6 will have slightly more output due to its larger size.
     
    pedro quiroga, Jan 6, 2007
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