Kicker 750.1 amp...what kind of subs/box?

Discussion in 'Subwoofer Box and Custom Fabrication' started by eazy, Oct 8, 2006.

  1. eazy

    eazy Full Member

    Good news, it turns out my dad had a circle saw and folding table from the 70's... and they still work lol. The 7.25" 20 tooth rusty blade needed to be replaced though. I got a 140 tooth.
     
  2. aznboi3644

    aznboi3644 Full Member

    sweet...the only new tools I have are Ryobi cordless drill and circular saw set
     
  3. eazy

    eazy Full Member

    Nice. Now I just need to find something that can cut a clean circle.

    Oh yeah, I was just thinking, say I built a box, and the internal volume was 5 cubes. Then I wanted to subtract the port displacement. When I do that, am I subtracting just the volume the plastic tube takes up? Or the plastic tube and the air inside of it?
     
  4. aznboi3644

    aznboi3644 Full Member

    tube and and the volume of air inside it...so basically use the outer diameter of the tube and the length
     
  5. eazy

    eazy Full Member

    Ah, damn, so I have been doing it right lol. I was hoping I was wrong and I'd come to find out a pvc port would take up pretty much no volume. Oh well.


    Hey, would it be okay to have the ports on the sides of the box?
     
  6. eazy

    eazy Full Member

    The reason I ask is, you want to keep the port at least 4" from the back wall of the box, right?

    I was told that if I do a common chamber box I should try to get 50 sq. inches of port area... well with a box 43" wide, 14" tall, and 18" deep, a square port that's 7"x7" needs to be around 18.25" long to get a 35 Hz tune, so obviously that won't work.

    I can do a 6"x6" port that's around 12.75" long... but that's only 36 sq. inches of port.
     
  7. aznboi3644

    aznboi3644 Full Member

    Two round 6 inch ports will work fine. I dunno but it is something about round ports that make them have less air velocity than square ports of the same port area...I believe...not really sure.

    But two 6 inch ports will work perfectly fine and sound great doing it
     
  8. eazy

    eazy Full Member

    Hm...

    WinISD tells me that 4.5 cubes tuned to 35 Hz requires two 6" round ports 22.71" long... the box is only going to be 18" deep.
     
  9. eazy

    eazy Full Member

    I can do 4.5 cubes at 40 Hz with a port 7"x7" and 12.86" long.
     
  10. aznboi3644

    aznboi3644 Full Member

    that would be fine also...should pound very hard
     
  11. eazy

    eazy Full Member

    What tunes do you think I should make for the interchangable ports?

    A guy on the lowrider site suggested I get a $50 spl meter from radioshack, make a sealed plug for the box, and see what frequency my car plays loudest at, then make a port that tune.
     
    Last edited: May 12, 2007
  12. aznboi3644

    aznboi3644 Full Member

    you should not tune the box to the resonant frequency of your vehicle...a boxes peak is "normally" around 10Hz higher than the tuning frequency. Guy on LowRider is a douch

    haha I would waste 50 bucks on a crappy spl meter. Just pay a local shop like 10 bucks to use their meter and play a sine sweep or some tones.
     
  13. eazy

    eazy Full Member

    Maybe I said it wrong lol. I don't know. This is what he said...

    GUY: "honestly I wouldnt bother with port plugs...... but if you want to do that you should tune one to peak at ur vehicles resonant frequency.... you can use a sealed bos and an spl meter from radio shack to figure that out"

    ME: "Are SPL meters expensive? When I went on radioshack's website they had a couple for $50 but they only measured up to 126db."

    GUY: "you dont need one that will read over 126db for this application.... all you are trying to do is find the loudest frequncy inside your car. Once you know what it is you can tune a box to peak at that freq for spl competitions."


    And just for a little background on the guy, just for ****s and giggles, he said this in one of his little internet tiffs lol...

    "Chump I could careless about what your "world finalist" friend (probably pete or tuan) has to say about me. I gave up DB Drag and USAC several years ago to concentrate on other things. Dont get it twisted and think I didnt do well because I was a 2x DB Drag and USACi world finalist/invitee, with a certified 170.5 in ss1-2 and consistant 168+ all season long. People that were active in DB Drag on the westcoast and pac nw from 99-04 know me quite well. The last competiton system I designed and installed ended up being the points champion in streetmax 1-2, rookie of the year and got a 5th place at DB Drag WF's with 1 blown sub so you do the math. So keep runnin ya cumcatcher rookie and tell your "friend" I said hello."
     
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  14. electrolytic

    electrolytic Full Member

    if 2 6 inch ports are too long then make them say 5 inch round ports that way the port length shortens but your box size stays the same. try different port sizes you will see you can get what you want.
     
  15. aznboi3644

    aznboi3644 Full Member


    haha I call bull****....ask him for a name and if his name comes up with those numbers than I'll believe it when I see it.

    it is true that a meter that goes up to 126db will work...just play sine waves at low to moderate levels. If you tune a box to peak at your cars peak frequency than it may sound a little peaky. But that may not be the case sometimes. My huge box has a HUGE peak at 50Hz but sounds great on all music...dunno how. Ranger is just badass I guess
     
  16. eazy

    eazy Full Member

    Ah lol.


    Well kind of random... but if you were to build a box for a single 15" alpine type r sub, 3 cubes ported to 30 Hz, what port area would you want?

    (going in the bed of an 89 s10 with a camper)
     
    Last edited: May 13, 2007
  17. aznboi3644

    aznboi3644 Full Member

    Well...my friend has a 15 Type R...we put it in my huge box. 4.3 cubes tuned to 40Hz with 112.5 square inches of port.

    This mother was LOUD AS FAWK. Took 1200 watts rms like it was nothing

    3 cubes is too small for a 15 Type R. I'd to between 4-5 cubes and tuning that low is not necessary. I'd tune to between 35-40Hz with a lot of port area.

    I'd do has much port area as you can possibly fit into the size constraints
     
  18. eazy

    eazy Full Member

    Okay, the guy said he wanted some plans for a box 3 cubes tuned to 30 Hz, so I made some plans with 49.5 sq. inches of port.
     
  19. eazy

    eazy Full Member

    I told the guy you recommended 4-5 cubes at 35-40 Hz with a lot of port area...

    EDIT: Azn, a guy wanted to know what vehicle that setup your friend has was in? if it was trunked or walled?


    but back to the CVR's lol...

    the SPL guy suggested for a daily setup I do a common chamber with 4.5 cubes tuned to 33 Hz and 50 sq. inches of port, does that sound good?
     
    Last edited: May 13, 2007
  20. aznboi3644

    aznboi3644 Full Member

    50 sq inches of port is about two 6 inch round ports.

    4.5 sounds good. Everyone thinks that 33Hz is the "best" for daily. I think its gay. The response curve is affected by the box size and tuning. bigger box higher tuning will still have a smooth curve like a smaller box and lower tuning. I would still do about 35-40Hz tuning

    By the way my friend has his type R in a small sealed box in the trunk of an Oldsmobile Aurura. We just put it in my big box to see how loud it was