Johan Sirhan... I am calling you out!!!

Blah, flawlesskid? who's that?? :unsure:

I actually agree with your description of smooth bass...only point i disagree with is the blending part, i think a punchy sub can blend as well as a smooth sub given the right tuning.

 

HAHA! You're talkin to a busy man here. Schools back in, and usually when im on that side of town, im at the ol ladies (she lives where i used to live now). I'm gonna stop by at some point though.

Oh, and who cares? Maybe somebody does. I care, and maybe johan cares, so hehe. Oh, by the way, try going all active from the HU with that pioneer. Im talkin variable HPF, BPF and LPF. Now, you might not want it, but you cant sit here and tell me that aint pretty damn kick ass paired with DTC and pure unadulterated alpine quality... haha :lmfao:

We gotta get this sub idea going though. What are you looking to get out of your sub johan? Im talkin as far as output goes.

 

IMO, if you take an Alpine HU and a Pioneer HU, with identical features, the Pioneer is 10x easier to use. The user interface allows an idiot to access all the features with ease and understanding. Also, and it's just opinion, Alpine is too ricey for that ride! Alpine is for Civics...Pioneer for more "classy" rides

Being one of the only ED users on CAT (Krelky and 'monkey), I have to recommend some 10O's if you want to go IB. They're cheaper than the IDMAX, though it might not sound as good (haven't heard the new IDMAX's...v3's). They will sound great, though. Regardless of which of these subs you might pick, an IB install will always look cool...especially the IDMAX and it's freakin' awesome basket! Amps...kind of hard to have a beef with Cadence, except for their availability. In the 2 yrs. I've lurked or been registered at various car audio forums, I've yet to hear a single negative remark about the performance of any of their amps (the looks, on the other hand...). Lanzar Opti amps are nice, but I believe I heard they are a tad current hungry. They are also absolutely humongous (makes Kicker amps look like Memphis amps). Pheonix Gold's Tantrum line is outstanding, also. I got a great deal locally, so I'm sure Seth/Michael can hook you up nice. Comps...Alpine Type X can be had for relatively cheap (~$250ish for the 2 way set), as can the XR's, and I believe the Zeb has a great deal on some CDT's. As we all know, if you want SQ, pay close attention to the front stage, as it produces all but the bottom 2 octaves.

$.02...probably less...

 

if pioneer would fix the MP3 Problem I would buy them, but I have no use for them without that

it is a waste of a perfectly good disc only to have 18 songs on it :lol:

 

It's all in which deck you're more familiar with. The Alpine is pretty simple once you figure out a few key buttons. Same goes for the Pioneer.

 

Just tell me why the 740 is a better deck, and i'll throw in my cards. Oh, and unless my eyes decieve me, mike has that 740 for $250 refurbished, so i wouldnt say its a much better deal price wise than the 9813. We're talkin features for the dollar. Of course a deck with less useful features will be cheaper.. If the features the alpine offers that the pioneer doesn't offer aren't useful to you, then the pioneer aint a bad choice. The pioneer looks better, though i disagree about the "ricey" issue as they are all pretty ricey in some way, the pioneers ricey screensavers come to mind and the alpines bright keys. Nakamichi, now thats a classy head unit buddy... Nothing ricey about that. Nak cd45z, love that deck.. But the features just aren't there. 740 has fair features, and fair pricetag to match. If 250 is the set budget on the deck, another deck to look into is the JVC KD-sh707. Seems to be a pretty nice deck, and it has the fastest mp3 playback of the bunch.

A sub to look into would definately be the Stereo Integrity Magnum d2.

here's a link to a pretty indepth review..
http://forum.soundillusions.net/showthread...0364#post270364

Seems it will perform well with anything at or above 500 watts.

And i still stand by the JL XR's as the Koda's while having stellar midbass are too laid back for my taste in the midrange and upper frequencies.. XR's are closer to my taste. The tweets aren't as hard to work with as my Prefered MB Quarts.

 

MP3's are not a concern for me. The digital imaging makes my ears bleed. So playability is a non issue in my opinion

 

Just tell me why the 740 is a better deck, and i'll throw in my cards. Oh, and unless my eyes decieve me, mike has that 740 for $250 refurbished, so i wouldnt say its a much better deal price wise than the 9813. We're talkin features for the dollar. Of course a deck with less useful features will be cheaper.. If the features the alpine offers that the pioneer doesn't offer aren't useful to you, then the pioneer aint a bad choice. The pioneer looks better, though i disagree about the "ricey" issue as they are all pretty ricey in some way, the pioneers ricey screensavers come to mind and the alpines bright keys. Nakamichi, now thats a classy head unit buddy... Nothing ricey about that. Nak cd45z, love that deck.. But the features just aren't there. 740 has fair features, and fair pricetag to match. If 250 is the set budget on the deck, another deck to look into is the JVC KD-sh707. Seems to be a pretty nice deck, and it has the fastest mp3 playback of the bunch.

A sub to look into would definately be the Stereo Integrity Magnum d2.

here's a link to a pretty indepth review..
http://forum.soundillusions.net/showthread...0364#post270364

Seems it will perform well with anything at or above 500 watts.

And i still stand by the JL XR's as the Koda's while having stellar midbass are too laid back for my taste in the midrange and upper frequencies.. XR's are closer to my taste. The tweets aren't as hard to work with as my Prefered MB Quarts. [/b][/quote]
Why so harsh :angry: Like you, I was merely giving my opinion. Surely you aren't going to jump on my back because I have a different opinion.

I installed my dad's Alpine and played with for a bit. I have a Pioneer HU. I simply think Pioneer is easier to use, that's all. The silvery/bright blue buttons look nice in a compact import...kind of tacky, imo in a Caddy. I definitely agree with the Nak pick, though. They seemed to have fallen off the face of the earth, so I didn't mention them.

 

anything recoded on a CD is Digital, that is the ONLY data that can be stored on a Disc


the Definition of "Digital Data" is data made up of "1"'s and "0"'s

a CD normal CD does this by "indenting" area of the disc to reflect the laser away from the "eye" or reflecting it "in to" the eye, creating a Array of "1",s and "0"s

CDR do this by a Different method, by "opaquing" a die layer in the disc, so the light is not reflected in some areas

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The data track on a Normal CD streached 3.5 MILES :lol:


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as far as MP3 Goes, I would be Hard Pressed for you to hear the Differance in a MP3 and a WAV or CDA formated Song, given that YOU encoded the song ourself form the same File you will use for a blind test, and a sample rate is the same for BOTH files

 

Why so harsh :angry: Like you, I was merely giving my opinion. Surely you aren't going to jump on my back because I have a different opinion.

I installed my dad's Alpine and played with for a bit. I have a Pioneer HU. I simply think Pioneer is easier to use, that's all. The silvery/bright blue buttons look nice in a compact import...kind of tacky, imo in a Caddy. I definitely agree with the Nak pick, though. They seemed to have fallen off the face of the earth, so I didn't mention them.

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Sorry if i came off strong man, most is opinion based, but im merely asking for some hard facts that make the pioneer better, ie., better specs, or features with price considered. I wont try to write out your opinion, just tryin to throw out judging by opinions and go more into something non subjective. Most of whats been said in defense of the 740mp is all opinion based. No hard feelings i hope.. :love:

 

indeed
the kodas need to be off axis, especially the tweeter

 

Not at all old man. SFEQ isn't a bad feature.. Don't see how it makes it better, but thats all opinion there. I'd like to hear the koda's in a diff setup, your setup is quite girly lately! :lmfao: Get some umphh! in your setup man! All that horsepower, and all that wattage, and you're playing soft. I'm waiting for the day i hear you listening to Bach.. :no:

Oh, and BTW, i'll definately be at the shop the first week in Sept. to give you a demo of a REAL HU!

 

Yes! Let that sumbitch LOOSE! I liked it then..

I like the beefy bull, not that lil sissy you've been riding around with.. <_<

 

Hey, let's leave Bach out of this. I've been known to mess around with some classical music .

 

I have to be honest... From time to time, i throw in my CD's from my music appreciation class.. Its loaded with classical, baroque, renaissance, you name it... Bach, Bethoven, Talk about perfect music to demonstrate the dynamic abilities of your setup... Listening to a Bethoven symphony where Peaks come in at 6 db louder than anything else in the piece almost blows you out of the car! Whoa, am i really getting excited about Bethoven?

 

I have to be honest... From time to time, i throw in my CD's from my music appreciation class.. Its loaded with classical, baroque, renaissance, you name it... Bach, Bethoven, Talk about perfect music to demonstrate the dynamic abilities of your setup... Listening to a Bethoven symphony where Peaks come in at 6 db louder than anything else in the piece almost blows you out of the car! Whoa, am i really getting excited about Bethoven? [/b][/quote]
Hypocrite.