Interesting..... i looked the amp up on the amp guts site, dont lokk ANYTHING like the old orions!!!I can see where they cut some corners and now they look like your more average amps on the market, not a bad design, just not as "Ballsy" as they once were. The OLD orions looked better i think The top is the amp you posted about, the bottom is the good ol 2100 HCCA. Both are similiar in ouput, the 2100 is about 200-400 watts less.....