too small of enclosure

Discussion in 'Car Subwoofers' started by tommy2tone, Dec 30, 2010.

  1. tommy2tone

    tommy2tone Full Member

    One of my neighbors has 2 kicker l7 12's in a ported box.He's powering them with a kicker zx1500.Now the problem is that certain songs makes the bass cut out,I've tweaked and regrounded and nothing has gotten rid of the problem.I'm wondering if his box is too small.It's only(by the outside dimmensions)3.5cubes.Once you add in a high tune and sub disp. I don't think they are getting 1.5 each.Now looking them up I've learned that kicker recommends 1.75-3.25cubes each.Could this be what the problem is?
     
  2. Ranger SVO

    Ranger SVO Full Member

    It is possible, but
    do you mean that it completely shuts off or does it get very weak? A symptom of a box that is too small, tuned low, is that lower frequencies cannot be produced.

    When a box is too small the tuning becomes higher. Very high, regardless of how the port is tuned. Remember, port tuning effects gain, it has very little to do with how low it goes. With that said, if we have a TOO small box its tuning frequency is pretty high. Lets say 75 Hz. Now we tune the port to 30 Hz, now we have beyond bad. What we have is a box thats tuned too high and we have no gain at all. NO Low Frequencies

    Now going from 1.75 recommended minimum to 1.5 should not be that servere. But going from 1.75 minimum to 1-1.25 might be.

    I have dealt with Kicker L7 and they do like air space, and remember, port area is NOT part of the air space

    Also if the sound seems to be shutting off, check the amp. Is the sub-sonic filter on??
     
  3. tommy2tone

    tommy2tone Full Member

    We tried it with the sub sonic filter and w/o,same results.He has a 200 amp alt,0/1 gauge wire and a digital read out cap.His volts are not dropping to much and the amp goes into protect when the bass cuts out.He for sure has less than 1.5 per sub,but I measured it a couple months ago and I don't remember the specs.Like I said,it's only certain songs and only a couple of songs do it.I'm guessing by the thin ports that it's tuned high like 38-46hz.That's just a guess though.I had a box laying around for him to try,but it wasn't pretty enough for him.So basically I'm just looking to learn for future reference.Thanks for the input Ranger.
     
  4. TheViking

    TheViking Well-Known Member

    Too small of a box will NOT cause an amp to shut down or the sound to cut out. If it happens on certain songs...dont play those songs....LOL!

    You have issues that seem to be in the realm of current delivery to the amp. For the time being....disconnect the cap....make SURE the amps ground is done RIGHT. Clean metal with a bolt and nut..

    If the box is wrong. the impedance could change in such a way that causes issues....but i have NEVER seen that
    Check your voltage and electrical.......thats my bet.
     
  5. Lazy Eye

    Lazy Eye Full Member

    what are the subs wired at?
     
  6. tommy2tone

    tommy2tone Full Member

    I'm not for sure what they're wired at.The guy wouldn't let me pull a sub to find out and he said there's no way he'll allow the cap to be unhooked.I don't think he wants real help,I think he's just ****ed off and likes to bitch.I mean,I tried to help him but he doesn't want to listen.I'm just wondering for future reference thanks.