Speaker opinions..

Discussion in 'Car Stereo Speakers' started by Willy D, Nov 13, 2006.

  1. Willy D

    Willy D Full Member

    Hey everyone opinions please....

    Gonna get some new front speakers for my son's car (1994 Pont. Sunbird) just gonna drop some aftermarkets in place of the factory ones....They are 3.5" coaxials.....

    I am looking at...

    MB Quart...DKE-108
    Infinity Kappa..32.7

    These are gonna run off the head unit...Currently a junk Sony Explode....Soon to be a JVC like mine probably....Any opinions on which of those two choices would be better? He is not gonna have a sub and amp...Gonna replace the rear 6x9's with some Kenwood Excelons probably...

    I also want to put something in-line on these 3.5" fronts to block bass..Any recommendations on what to use....Can you just wire in a cap.? What rating if so for what freq.

    Thanks

    Willy
     
  2. TheViking

    TheViking Well-Known Member

    To me, a 3.5 is a 3.5 is a 3.5 incher, I havent heard one yet that sounded truely great, I say either one, bothare from reputable manufactures. Let your boy listen to them and decide which he likes the sounds of better, thats how it should be done anyway, if possible.

    For a x-over, a simple cap wired in will do fine. 100uF to 50uf cap will do just fine. ( Theres might be a chance the HU will have issues with the caps, if so, let me know )
     
  3. Willy D

    Willy D Full Member

    Don't really have anywhere close to me to go and hear these...Or hardly any 3.5" speakers.....We have listened to several pairs of 6x9's and we both like the Kenwoods......I know both of the MB Quart and Infinity's shold both be pretty decent....The MB's are $29.00 and the Infinity's are like $45.00....

    I love the sound of all the Infinity's but I know MB's have a good rep. I think more than anything, the HU is gonna make a bigger difference...I hate that freakin sony and so does he...

    Let me ask you this Viking.....Which do you prefer in HU

    My JVC... KD-G820...$199.00

    Alpine...CDA 9856....$199.00

    I was all set to go Alpine this time around (for me) and I found the menu a little more confusing than ther JVC.....

    Alpine....Good sound....good rep.....confusing menu....preouts all 2 v

    JVC.....Good sounding...good rep.....I found the menu a little easier...Preouts are 4v (frt. rear) 2v (sub out)....3 band EQ (lo, mid parametric, hi semi parametric)

    In the store, I basically had this JVC and the Alpine 9857 side by side...I flattened out EQ and tried to volume balance the two, then AB'ed them both...Some things the Alpine seemed a little better, some things the JVC did....I went JVC cause of the preout voltage and the 3 band EQ mainly...I liked the looks of both.....So that is how I made my choice....I guess I am second guessing myself for not getting the Alpine bases solely on their reputation....

    What do you think??

    Willy
     
  4. Willy D

    Willy D Full Member

    Or I could get Kenwood Excelon KDC X590 FOR $229.00...It has all the features of the JVC, but it has all 3 preouts at 4 volt, has more x over options for the sub out (lo pass) and can flip phase from HU...Also has seperate hi pass options for front and rear......(my amp has this capabiltiy also)

    Willy
     
  5. TheViking

    TheViking Well-Known Member

    I am realy not the right one to ask about HU's, I havent bought one in YEARS!

    But going off what you posted, I would say the JVC would be a wise decision. the EQ/Parametric Would be ideal for a simple sytem such as the one going in the youngans car.....Preamps voltage is not an issue since he wont have an amp however. I am sure the power output is virtually the same between the 2 also.....
     
  6. Willy D

    Willy D Full Member

    My thought was if he wanted my JVC, I could opt for one of the other ones...Or I could stick with what I have and he will buy one just like it...

    Willy
     
  7. DaveDSMer

    DaveDSMer Full Member

    I think the Eclipse CD3000 is right in that price range and I love it. I thought it was much better than that Alpine I was considering buying.
     
  8. Willy D

    Willy D Full Member

    You know what is strange Dave?
    I thought the Eclipse stuff would be way more than that...I just looked at one of these after you suggested it.....Seriously thinking about it...I have always heard that Eclipse stuff was very sweet...very musical....This things has exactly what I want in a unit.....I am gonna think seriously about it....really.....

    Do the preouts have pigtails or jacks direct from the back? Just curious...

    Really like the looks of this thing too...

    Willy

    ps THANKS!!!
     
  9. snowblind

    snowblind New Member

    I read in another forum that MB Quart Discus series are made in China and the Reference (components) series aren't any good. I was thinking of MB Quart, too but I think I'll look elsewhere now.

    Probably wouldn't be too hard to do some cutting and fit a larger speaker in there. That's what I did. I have a Sunfire. The stock is 4x6. I did some cutting and stuck a 5.25" in there then I cut some more and replaced that with a 6.5".
     
  10. aznboi3644

    aznboi3644 Full Member

    snowblind....pretty much every product these days are made over in Asia or somewhere over there...I don't even think US Amps is made in the US anymore
     
  11. Hautewheeler

    Hautewheeler Full Member

    The problem with speakers is that you have a low excursion speaker in a huge enclosure, that is usually not sealed very well, and they are typically pointed at your knees or the windshield. It is hard to get good sound under those conditions.. (almost impossible)

    You need free-air dynamics from the lows, and directional dispersal from the highs.. not easily achievable.

    I have heard coustics sound just as good as infinity. This is a very touchy subject because of the enclosure being the dominant factor in the speaker's functionality and direction..

    unless you are willing to re-design your interior, and spend lots of money, you are really unlikely to get good sound from your speaks.. especially 3.5's.

    I generally look for good power handling and a large magnet structure, and it usually serves me well regardless of brand (just stay away from the super-el-cheapo's - meaning: don't buy rampage or audiovox junk, or you'll just be reeplacing them often).. just be careful that a large magnet speaker does not take up more space than you have available.. (I'm assuming that your 3.5" speaks are for a dash application?)
     
  12. Willy D

    Willy D Full Member

    Well....For his application....These are infact dash mounted speakers...I had a '90 Sunbird myself and I know these are gonna sound much like a beefy tweeter....80-90% of his sound is gonna come from the 6x9's....he has had this car for over a year with some cheap-ass frt. speakers and rear speakers and this terrible sony head unit......

    he is gonna buy my JVC off of me and I am gonna buy the Eclipse CD3000....

    If he wants to step it up, maybe I can work on it in the spring and get him some more beef in the front.....For now, I think we are just gonna buy the MB's and leave it at that...he is not looking to bump, just have his music come through without all the crackle and crap...

    Willy
     
  13. Ranger SVO

    Ranger SVO Full Member

    My sons car uses stock 3-1/2's with no problem. And I really work them hard. They are powered by a Pioneer amp. My recommendation, pick a speaker any speaker and don't forget the 99 MFD capacitor (not one of those cheap bass blockers, a REAL cap, like those made by PAC are great) This will help alot. And as The Viking just taught me don't forget the bypass cap.

    I need to do that to my sons car too. I guess I'll pick those up tomorrow while I'm getting the new fan motor.
     
  14. Willy D

    Willy D Full Member

    Are capacitors from a local radioshack a good choice?

    I am gonna pick up a couple of these 99mfd....What about this other one you talk about? The bypass cap....What mfd? How does it wire in?

    Willy
     
  15. TheViking

    TheViking Well-Known Member

    Basically a "bypass" cap is a small value (around .01 mf) poly or mylar cap that is wired in parallel with the "big" electrolytic cap. Makes the cap "react faster"....For what you are doing, dont worry about, you wont notice a bit of difference!!! The idea is reserved more for the "high end" designs....Not calling your system a junk pile, just it wwont make an audible difference with what you will have installed..

    Radio shack I am sure will have what you need, get a NON-polar cap with at least a 50 volt rating, and i does not have to be EXACTLY 99mF....if they dont have a 99, get one that is 125 mF or 85 mF, just something CLOSE, this aint an exacting science for what you are doing so you dont have to be overly critical...
     
  16. Willy D

    Willy D Full Member

    Okie....dokie.....

    Once this thing is installed, will it "bite" me if I have to disconnect it?

    Willy
     
  17. TheViking

    TheViking Well-Known Member

    LOL!!! Nope, wont hurt ya a bit, it aint like a condensor in a cars ignition that is charged with high voltage DC. These caps see A/C voltage which really wont hold a charge in our application....
     
  18. DaveDSMer

    DaveDSMer Full Member

  19. Willy D

    Willy D Full Member

    Thanks Dave....

    I bought one....it is on it's way....

    Thanks for the heads-up...My son is gonna buy my JVC.....

    all is good...

    Willy
     
  20. DaveDSMer

    DaveDSMer Full Member

    good deal willy