Patents

Discussion in 'General Car Audio Discussions' started by hobbes26, Apr 22, 2004.

  1. hobbes26

    hobbes26 Full Member

    What's interesting to having easy access to the Journal of the Acoustical Society of America is that in every volume is a review of acoustically related patents. This ranges from speakers, to microphones and other transducers, ultrasound devices, toys incorporating acoustical devices, etc...

    Here's some links to what I found interesting from the March 2004 Issue:
    Surround design - #6,607,051
    Stillwater Designs Square/Rectangular sub - # 6,611,604
    Flat Speaker? - # 6,611,606
    Interesting Port design - #6,618,488
     
  2. geolemon

    geolemon Full Member

    What's interesting about some of these patents, are the ones that don't quite seem to make sense, at least as documented...
    ...in other words, you'd expect an engineer seeking a patent to understand all the ins and outs about what may give his invention some advantage or another - but then you look at say, the port-design patent.

    Do the drawings approximate experimentation prototypes? You might think so... if you look at the third drawing I believe, there's not a port diameter's worth of clearance between the bass reflex port and the speaker... which would change tuning, inherently.

    Also - if there was a large tube attached to the baffle - could the measured dB gains not be attributable simply to the fact that the baffle now has bracing - less lossy?

    The surround design also doesn't seem practical as drawn..
    There would be air trapped between the two suspension rings, which would be compressed as the cone moved up and down... not exactly linear, and that wouldn't lead to the promised "improvements in sound quality".

    ...which might explain why you don't see a lot of these patents in actual product application. ;)

    I'm just curious, what context were these patents being referenced in the journal?
     
  3. hobbes26

    hobbes26 Full Member

    Isn't this type of surround something we looked into and discussed a little while
    back?

    It's just a collection of acoustically related devices - kooky or not - with little comments by the editors on how they're supposed to work, and their general critiques on what they think of it...
     
  4. geolemon

    geolemon Full Member

    So what did they think of it?
    Any of them voice the concerns that I did?

    And we had discussed that suspension design somewhere...
    But not two of them, that would result in trapped air between them. ;)
    You'd need to perforate the inside or outside one (not both) to alleviate this effect.
     
  5. hobbes26

    hobbes26 Full Member

    Nope. It's just a little blurb about what it purports to do and it's effects. I think they just said it was "interesting" (re: the port design).

    As for the surround design, they just described it. Nothing more.

    I'll look in a few more issues and see if there's anything more interesting... ;)
     
  6. hobbes26

    hobbes26 Full Member

    Maybe someone will find this interesting?

    JL - adjustable motor strength using field coils - #6,639,994
    - I think it uses some sort of controller to control the field coil (and changing the motor strength) to be in time with the incoming audio signal


    Alpine - their design for a low distortion, high output power loudspeaker - #6,639,993
    - Something to do with an S-shaped pole piece crossection reducing BL non-linearities...
     
  7. geolemon

    geolemon Full Member

    I'm interested!
    Got links? B)
     
  8. hobbes26

    hobbes26 Full Member

    Oh shoot
    hah, forgot that part

    JL - #6,639,994 - HERE

    Alpine - #6,639,993 - HERE

    It's easy enough to find them, just go to www.uspto.gov and do a search on the patent numbers. I'll keep doing it for consistency and ease for all y'all.
     
  9. geolemon

    geolemon Full Member

    Much appreciated for the lazy ones in the crowd!

    :bag:

    :lol:
     
  10. hobbes26

    hobbes26 Full Member

    From the June 2004 issue....

    Loudspeaker Damper by Matsushita
    # 6,655,495 Which incorporates a central flat portion into a traditional corrugated spider that's supposed to improve linearity and have better resistance to rocking.

    High Frequency Loudspeaker by Matsushita again...
    # 6,661,903 Shows a speaker with some kind of special clamped-edge cone and a way to attach the cone to the VC to minimize resonances... overall, to help achieve a quite flat frequency response from ~1500Hz to well above 20kHz...
     
  11. fugyaself

    fugyaself Full Member

    The S shaped pole piece opening is interesting.
     
  12. systempimp_1500

    systempimp_1500 Full Member

    Just don't be gay like bose and patent something stupid & universal like the 6th ordered bandpass.

    buncha' homo gays






    Jeff
     
  13. hobbes26

    hobbes26 Full Member

    Well, JL patented a design for a field coil, which I believe has been used in one form or other before... not sure of the new implentation tho

    And the flat spider probably has been done before too, tho not exactly sure... Maybe I should read these more thoroughly...
     
  14. geolemon

    geolemon Full Member

    I take it you aren't a Bob Carver fan, then, either? :p
     
  15. systempimp_1500

    systempimp_1500 Full Member

    no, chris

    you're my only fan, sweet cheeks :D B)





    Jeff
     
  16. hobbes26

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  17. hobbes26

    hobbes26 Full Member

    For September... yeah, I'm a little late... and no time to get the links for you lazy ppl... :p

    # 6,578,658 Acoustic Chamber Integrated With Vehicle Door

    # 6,700,984 Non-Linearly Tapering Transmission Line Speakers

    # 6,704,425 System and method to Enhance Reproduction of Sub-Bass Frequencies

    # 6,711,269 Multifunction Acoustic Device (cell phone speaker)
     
  18. hobbes26

    hobbes26 Full Member

    JL's HO ported box patent #6,744,902

    Acoustical wave method touch screen patent #6,741,237

    Sony's Playstation patent - the portable one with LCD flip-up #6,749,507

    Hitachi's method of putting a partition between two speakers so you can put the speakers closer together and still get 'good' stereo separation #6,731,765

    IBM's speech recognition program - the thing that's special here is that they try to generate the correct punctuation without you having to specifically tell it to do the punctuation, instead, it 'listens' to the pauses and and other characteristics of your voice #6,718,303
     
  19. fugyaself

    fugyaself Full Member

    Love checking these out. Keep up with the good finds!