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I gotta take Kirk's side on this one in relation to your response. I think he is trying to do right by everyone now....yes it is waaayyyy too late and that is inexcusable, but he's at least hanging around unlike some who would have just taken the money and ran.

His reasons for shutting down are irrelevant IMO. I have heard that the embezzlement scheme was what led to the demise ultimately. The company only consisted of a few workers in teh first place and if you have to fire two or three of your best people, turn around times are going to suffer. The time it took ampman to recieve money and ship products are ultimately what hurt them IMO.

 

I'll also argue that 9/11 and the ensuing war in Iraq had a huge affect on all retail sales. Working in retail before and after the conflict, there was a definite difference. The affect wasn't direct, but there was definitely an indirect effect....

The stock market plummeted as a result of these events, which will sway those who invest from purchasing anything for a while in fear that the market will bottom out and they will be out a large amount of cash. Also, unemployment numbers were reaching record highs as companies began to lay off workers to cover for lost income. If people are in fear of losing their job, or if they had already lost their job, the chances of them spending money on luxury items is very slim.

So i think his argument is pretty solid.

 

LOL, always the conspiracy theorist eh Mike?

How do you know money can't be embezzled in a small company. My dad is an insurance agent and he employees at the most 3 people at a given time, so that's 4 total counting him. He's had to fire 2 people for embezzling money...yes he found out rather quickly, but they did get away with it for a short while.

 

So you're saying that 9/11 contributed in no way to the market falling further down? No correlation there at all huH?

 

Ok regardless, lets take Iraq and 9/11 out of it. The struggling economy contributed to ampman's demise. Agreed?

 

i agree with this...the economy was in a downhill run about a year before the war...in fact...there was a small boost during the war time

so from my stand point i cannot see blaming 9/11....because this dip in the economy didn't become apparent untill fall of 2002....and i can't blame the iraq war either...because i saw an increase in sales from april to july of this year...only to fall drastically from then untill now

i am not talking about any reports and retail maybe a little different...i am in food service....and these are the things i noted in this area

 

:starwars: ...we really need this one over at CAF micael

ps...does becoming an elite member disable flood control?...sorry about the OT

 

who here knows EXACTLY what happened with ampman and adire?

i do...but i doubt id be allowed to speak on it. it was some bad business decisions that got kirk in trouble. i dont care HOW good you can spin stuff...adire had removed ampman from their list of internet dealers well before kirk announced he was dropping adire :stupid:

eric

 

oh, and one more thing...adire was ampmans life support.

more or less, mr. kirk shot himself in the foot and then tried running a marathon. was anyone surprised that it happened?

eric

 

so the mighty ampman audio went crashing down?.... did they not have exclusive rights to all those companies you mentioned? . Mike...

 

like i said on CAF, it was not a thing as .. people are at war, i will buy less car audio...that's not it at all

i have taken an economics class and am currently in another one and can very well understand how something like that would have a profound affect on retail....

this is not to say that he's being completely open and honest...i'm just saying that it's a valid point that the war on terrorism would affect retail sales

 

i think its funny that kirk gave 3 reasons, but the whole "the war caused people to quit buying" actually falls under the whole economy thing

eric