Just a redneck from Alabama...

Discussion in 'New Member Introductions' started by Sonnie, Aug 14, 2006.

  1. Sonnie

    Sonnie Full Member

    Hi folks... got this link from Joey and figured I'd poke my head in and see what it's all about. Looks nice!

    I've been in car audio since way back in the 80's.... use to be really crazy about it, but I've mellowed out some in the recent years. I'm much more into home theater now than car audio, but I still like to piddle.

    You can see my latest and my previous two car installs prior to my latest via the link in my sig.


    Home Theater Shack

    Cedar Creek Cinema

    Car Audio System
     
  2. Hautewheeler

    Hautewheeler Full Member

    welcome sonnie.. we hope you like it here..

    you have some well put together pages, there.. nice and neat.
    and kudo's on the installs.. (glad to see a home audio guy here too!)

    although I think your ford had better taste in subs than the hyundai, I still like the very comprehensive list of photo's

    enjoy your time here..
     
  3. aznboi3644

    aznboi3644 Full Member

    Sup dude???
     
  4. Sonnie

    Sonnie Full Member

    Hey guys...


    Yeah, that SuperCrew did have a great sounding system in it and I was well pleased with the sub response in it. The one thing I liked about it was that the bass was all over you... the design proved pretty worthy. Most listeners felt the same... that it was right on top of you. I struggled getting super low response with that setup though. About .5 ft^3 more volume than recommended on the 12W6v2 helped, but still didn't quite get me where I would liked to have been. It was super clean though.

    I decided to try out the Xenon's after some BassBox graphs resulted in some pretty low extensiion possibilities. I was actually shocked at how low and clean these subs played. I tried a few others, and three box designs, but still couldn't get there until I went with the Xenon's. These are by no means a SPL sub... all SQ. You can pretty much forget about them past about 40-50hz and up, but they are awesome in the extreme lower range and super clean. It's what I've been looking for and haven't been able to find until now. .. not to mention the price was very reasonable.

    I wouldn't mind having a little more output, but I haven't found the right subs yet that will give me that ultra low clean extension AND the higher output... without spending a fortune, and then I'm still not sure I'd get both.
     
    Last edited: Aug 15, 2006
  5. TheViking

    TheViking Well-Known Member

    nice job on the installation Sonnie. and nice site too...........

    I have never in all my years of car audio installed subs in an enclosure the way you have. Very interesting. I can see some benefits to it, but i must ask, do you think the omnidirectional output may cause some destructive interference in the lower frequencies?
     
  6. Hautewheeler

    Hautewheeler Full Member

    seems like you enjoy the "all encompassing bass" and not just back of your head thumping, huh?
     
  7. Sonnie

    Sonnie Full Member

    Definitely... I like the bass to surround me.

    Viking... it doesn't appear that it does. I've gotten better bass response from this method than any other I've tried in a trunk install. However, I have to admit, the fact that I wanted to have a very clean install... as much of a factory look as possible (from the trunk view), had more influence on me designing it the way I did. This was something I did many years ago in another install, but I installed the amps on the rear, inside the trunk. The first time was an experiment and I liked the response better than any other design. I've somewhat stuck with it since, at least in all my trunk installs. Even in my two recent truck installs I found firing the sub down gave better response.

    As stated before though... none of these have ever given me great SPL. The best SPL I ever had was with a ported design... the last one I did in 1988 won Best of Show at CKR Automotive in Montgomery, Alabama. I've been SQ every since then.
     
  8. TheViking

    TheViking Well-Known Member

    Interesting!

    I am about to so an install on my ol ladies car, an intrepid, might think about what you have shown, I like it!

    Hell, i got more MDF sittin around than you can burn in a year, so its time to play! One thing i will do however if I go with that design, is vent the sub to the rear, low to the floor and close to the sub. Should make for an interesting design.

    i have always loved playin with box designs! this gives me a new angle to try!
     
  9. Sonnie

    Sonnie Full Member

    When you say vent the sub to the rear... do you mean close off the front side? Mine is actually vented to the front and rear... then I have the factory sub removed and the cut-out opened up through the rear deck. No rear speakers at all... just fronts. In a sense I have the front closed off via the rear fold down seats, but it's not sho-nuff sealed obviously. I do "hear" more bass when the seats are down, but these subs are very limited in the upper sub range. I have my front Boston Pro's x-over set at 50hz with a mild boost around 60-65hz. This takes care of the upper sub-bass region for me pretty well. The subs are crossed over at 60hz since they roll off naturally there anyway.
     
  10. TheViking

    TheViking Well-Known Member

    I prefer a "ported box", thats what i mean y the vent. the vent will fire to the trunk area where thier is no restriction to the air velocity. again, the vents will be as close as possible to the sub so as to achieve the most accurate tuing...........