I mean, this morning I saw RF T4000.1bd's for like $400 to $600 ($2700 MSRP).... And RF T212D2 subs for $350 (MSRP $800)..... So you gotta' know, at these prices, these aren't factory authorized dealers, and you aren't getting squat for a warranty. But then again, say you get a T4000.1 and it either has a problem from day 1, or you 'give it a problem' on day 30.... RF would still fix it for you, wouldn't they ? Oh sure, they are going to charge you, but would it likely be worth it ? I'm thinking that an amp might be more likely to be fixed, than a wasted sub.... ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Oh, and would it be any different if it were a steal of a deal simply 'because' it was a factory refurbished unit ? Hmmmm. I'm thinking that if you could get your hands on a factory refurb "from an authorized dealer" it might then come with a pretty decent factory warranty, and still be a pretty great deal, huh ? Anyway, what are the ins and outs of these options ? Thanks, Fish