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hi there, i need some advice...

Discussion in 'General Car Audio Discussions' started by agentq232, Dec 28, 2002.

  1. agentq232

    agentq232 Full Member

    I am really new to this whole car audio thing. I am good with computers though, so I have some technical knowledge, Im not a complete buffon :)

    Anyways I need your advice for car audio stuff because I dont know anything basically. I just got an alpine 7894 installed in my 98 explorer xlt with premium sound and 4 doors. I really like the HU. I also got some crstal CSc50 5.25" components for christmas (with the titanium tweeter). Those are for the front. I was supposed to get some speakers for the middle door, but I have been told by some that it will mess up the "imaging" of the components. So, should i buy some coaxials for the back? if so, what are some good 5x7's.

    Also I want to run an amp. Keep in mind im still in high school (Im a senior), and dont have a real job but I will have about another 100 (not total amp budget) bucks this next week at least for some computer work i am scheduled to do. Ill have like ~200 to spend on an amp, the cheaper the better.
    So an amp for those 2 up front if i dont get some back speakers, or an amp for all 4 if I get back speakers.
    I dont really feel comfortable installing the speakers, but if you think I can do it and I can get some direction it would be appreciated. I dont feel like dishing out another 158 to get the front speakers installed only.

    I think I could do it myself but i would needs lots of pics and explanations. I live the in SF bay area so if anyone around was able to help me out if i mess it all up it would be appreciated.


    Hopefully that makes sense and you guys can help me out :)

    oh and nice forums, ill have to come here more often now that I am registered.
     
    agentq232, Dec 28, 2002
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  2. sandt38

    sandt38 Full Member

    Rear speakers will ruin the imaging of the front stage. However, as big as you vehicle is, I might suggest them (just coaxials, nothing real fancy). I would also suggest running the front stage off a small 2 channel amp, and leave the rears to fend for themselves off the HU (this is also keeping the $ issue in mind here). I do suggest this because you can fade the rear stage out and be able to just have the front stage running if you are alone in the vehicle. Later on, I might suggest a subwoofer install to really round out the whole project.

    by the way, I suggest you install it yourself. It is not very hard, and we will be sure to guide you in the right direction. By the way, nice equipment selection ;)
     
    sandt38, Dec 28, 2002
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  3. thechris

    thechris Guest

    i agree with using the amp on the front speakers. i would have also liked to see a subwoofer somewhere in the design. many forms of music benefit greatly from such a speaker. in my experience, systems without a sub either sound boomy at like 80hz, or sound like they are trying too hard. and since nothing is usually done to the rear wave, they usually are trying too hard!

    i'd reccomend getting a 4channel amp. most 4 channel amps will put out enough power to front speakers, and you could also put an amp on the rears OR add a small sub (a 4ohm SVC or 2ohm DVC).
     
    thechris, Dec 28, 2002
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  4. agentq232

    agentq232 Full Member

    yeah i would like to add a sub for my birthday in march. I should also have more christmas money coming to me. Can you guys recommend good amps? Also what sorta mounting plates do I need to put in my components up front, the stock slot is 6x8 or 5x7.

    Arg I cant decide whether or not to get coaxials for the back.
     
    agentq232, Dec 28, 2002
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  5. lilflop04

    lilflop04 Guest

    personally I dont care for rear full unless its setup right, which is quite hard to do. so I say save the money a put it on some nice fronts. theres a ton of good amps just depends on your price range and power/load.
    So you give me the fronts you looking to buy and ill help you fine a nice amp for them.
     
    lilflop04, Dec 30, 2002
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  6. agentq232

    agentq232 Full Member

    http://www.sounddomain.com/shop/item.pl?sk...C50T&vq_id=none

    ive got those already. If i had known i wasnt gonna get back speakers i probably would have bought a better pair. although its tempting to get a pair of pioneer rev serires 2 way coax's for the back, im not sure though.
     
    agentq232, Jan 1, 2003
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  7. 1967cutlass

    1967cutlass Guest

    if you have nice components in the front you really wont care about rear fill. it dosent matter unless you are in the back seat
     
    1967cutlass, Jan 1, 2003
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  8. agentq232

    agentq232 Full Member

    amp brands anyone? 2 channel or 4 channel, around 100w rms...
     
    agentq232, Jan 4, 2003
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  9. systempimp_1500

    systempimp_1500 Full Member

    US Acoustics USX 2100 from www.thezeb.com for the components and just run the coaxials off the hu..........




    Jeff
     
    systempimp_1500, Jan 4, 2003
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  10. agentq232

    agentq232 Full Member

    Do I need a built in crossover in the amp?
    Also are us acoustics amps any good?
     
    agentq232, Jan 9, 2003
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  11. Honest Bob

    Honest Bob Full Member

    From what I hear the USX amps are very nice.
     
    Honest Bob, Jan 9, 2003
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  12. luvdeftonz

    luvdeftonz Full Member

    I've had a US Accoustics USX-2080 amp powering my Type R comp's for almost three months now. I've yet to find something to complain about regarding the amp. This amp would also be nice for your Crystals. You can get it at Crutchfield for $106, that includes shipping and a 3 yr. warranty...something you won't get at the Zeb. Crutchfield will also hold your hand, step by step, through the amp installation process. As far as the rear speakers go, if your going to use them, just use the stock speakers, powered by the HU. The Crystals will get so loud and clear anyway that the occasional backseat passenger will still be provided with good sound.

    BTW, the amp does have a variable crossover. If you don't have a sub though, you should run you speakers full range.

    Good Luck!
     
    luvdeftonz, Jan 12, 2003
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  13. geolemon

    geolemon Full Member

    Lol...:lol:

    Style points for making the statement "I'm not a complete buffoon" ...and misspelling "buffoon" :D
    Welcome aboard!

    Anyways... you are on a budget, I'm sure you realize it's important to spend money where it counts, rather than on esoteric hoo-ha's like twisted-pair RCA cables and the like...

    You already have a great head unit, that's a good building block!

    I would suggest you read my webpage..
    www.betteraudio.com/geolemon
    Just the article that is the first link, which will explain why it is a good idea generally to focus on your front speakers..
    And will give you a better idea of how to better manage the other speakers in your install!
     
    geolemon, Jan 12, 2003
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