Help with Ported Box for Rockford Subs

Discussion in 'Subwoofer Box and Custom Fabrication' started by IamEli, Aug 2, 2006.

  1. IamEli

    IamEli Full Member

    Hello all, First I would like to say Hi and let you all know I am new to the forum. I have okay experience with car audio, but I need some help with a box I want to build. I have two Rockford Fosgate Punch HX2 12's and right now I have them in one box with a divider between them. Each sub has the recommended 2 cu. ft. of space in a ported box. For a total of 4 cu. ft. Now, my question is, I need to make a new box for the new car I got, and I was reading in some other posts that you can combine the subs into one big enclosure instead of the two seperate enclosures. If i was to do this, would I put two ports in the one large enclosure? Can I even combine two subs in a ported box and have it sounds right?
    Thanks in advance for the help. Any input would be great.
    Elisha
     
  2. aznboi3644

    aznboi3644 Full Member

    Whats goin on Eli...welcome.

    I'm not familiar with those HX2's but sure some others here can help you out...to answer your other questions though...yes you can have them in a common chamber enclosure and have it sound right...just make sure the ports are big enough...but if one driver fails than it will sound like poopy...thats why the divided box is a little better...insurance...if on driver fails the other one does not see a box that is suddenly twice the size.
     
  3. Ranger SVO

    Ranger SVO Full Member

    I would rather have 2 subs in one 4 cu ft box, then 2 subs in two 2 cu ft boxes. Ported boxes have a little different response characteristics then sealed boxes (and some similarities). How Low a ported box hits is a function of box size, not port tuning. Port tuning changes relative gain. So go with two woofers in a single 4 cu ft box.

    And I would use a minimum of two 4-inch round ports.
     
  4. TheViking

    TheViking Well-Known Member

    Agreed, one box for both. but dont forget the internal bracing
     
  5. IamEli

    IamEli Full Member

    Cool, I was never sure if you could combine the volume like that. Ranger SVO, In the diagrahms i have for those subs, it says a 4" roundX10" long port for each sub in its own box. Now you are saying use at least two ports in a combined box, so maybe bump it up to 4-4"X10" long ports?
    Thanks again,
    Elisha
     
  6. ramos

    ramos Full Member

    4 cuft shared by both subs tuned 32hz is wonderful enclosure for the hx2's . Good subs you got there :)
     
  7. IamEli

    IamEli Full Member

    Alright, so that does sound like a really good idea, but i dont know how to tune the subs to 32Hz. I have always just built the box like the manual says and plug and played and never had a problem, but I want it to be deep and sound really good. SO, I went online and found a site on how to Tune Ported Enclosures:

    http://www.clubknowledge.com/Car_Audio_FAQ/?t16

    But, right now I have 1-port per chamber at 4"roundX10" long, and if I did the formula right, I will need one port 4"roundX16" long, per chamber, or two 4"X16" in the big single chamber for both subs, in order to get down to 32 Hz. Does this sound right?? 16" long seems really long. I also looked at doing 4 ports in the large single chamber and using that formula the ports would have to be 33" long. Now that seems a little ridiculous.
    Thanks for the replies,
    Elisha
     
    Last edited: Aug 3, 2006
  8. Hautewheeler

    Hautewheeler Full Member

    be sure that you don't overpower these subs in a shared enclosure, and you also want to stay WAY THE HELL AWAY from any clipping at all.

    I don't recommend "sharing" a space for two subs because of the ramifications of what could go wrong, but it can be done and it will sound fine, but like I said.. just make sure that you stay within the recommended power handling, and be sure that you aren't pushing the amp too hard to acheive that.. the results will definitely be catastrophic to the harmony of your subs..
     
  9. Ranger SVO

    Ranger SVO Full Member

    Port Tuning has Nothing to do with how low a ported box hits. Size does. And at 4 cu ft you have a good size. Port tuning effects relative gain and a little gain is helpful. I would recomment tuning around 38- 40 Hz.

    Here are my recommendations two 4-inch ports that are 9-inches long

    Take it or leave it, my 22-cents worth
     
  10. aznboi3644

    aznboi3644 Full Member

    Take it...the end...quit asking about the same thing when it has been answered...don't doubt us...lol
     
  11. Ranger SVO

    Ranger SVO Full Member

    aznboi3644 you got 2 boxes to build, get to work.
     
  12. IamEli

    IamEli Full Member

    dang aznboi3644, i was just makin sure i got it. But yeah, its all good,I know what I gotta do. Thanks for the input all.
    Later
     
  13. TheViking

    TheViking Well-Known Member

    port tuning has NOTHIING to do with low frequency extension????

    In car or in home, it makes a big difference. . I must TOTALLY disagree.. Below the port tuning frequency, there is pretty much nothing as far as usable output goes. In car you have transfer function which reinforces the low end, in the home enviorment you have the same princable, just on a different scale.

    What you say makes NO sense.

    Tune a box to 180 HZ and stick it in your car, what does it sond like???? ****

    no bottom end, period. I understand totally the spl side of a box and its tuning,
    and I totally uncerstand box volume and its effects on low freq. extension, crap, i have built more sub boxes than probably all of you put together!!!

    Pleas e clarify your statement on box tuning ranger, maybe I missed your point.............
     
  14. aznboi3644

    aznboi3644 Full Member

    Yes Ranger I know...Just got paid today...gonna be gone this weekend but after that I'm goin to get my wood...then the box building begins...I'll take pics and post em up here when I get started...have no idea how to post pics though.
     
  15. Ranger SVO

    Ranger SVO Full Member

    Let me try this again. FirstThe Viking is 90% right. Probably a little more.

    But I stick by my recomendations for tuning for IamEli.

    Let me see if I can fix this, tuning from 32 to 38 there is no appreciable loss in the f3 point for this woofer in this enclosure. The 0dB point also changes slightly. But the change is not Significant.

    I picked a couple of woofers randomly from WinISD's data base, this is the data from one of them. And I got similar results from all the woofers I loaded. Some changes were more some were less.
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    What I see from the data is that as box size increases the f3 point decreases. Also if box size remains the same and only tuning is changed by 10Hz the f3 point change can very from a couple of Hz to 5 or 6 Hz. I consider this change, insignificant.

    If I am wrong please explain why. Tell me how I should have worded my explination. Like everyone else, I am here to learn more.
     
    Last edited: Aug 4, 2006