A Little Help...

try checking RE 8's

email marshall@visionaryaudio.com

 

either the re8's or the TBs are decent. as far as tuning on the TB's, you can go down to about 28-29 hz, but i wouldnt tune it any lower. iirc, if you tune lower than the Fs, you lose mechanical powerhandling.

the re8's flat out rock. i think im gonna buy a pair off my buddy since he's getting rid of em. yeah i know the new ones are darn cheap, but im broke as a joke

eric

 

i dont believe im allowed to say what his price is on them (and i honestly cant remember the official price at the moment), but hit him up at marshall@visionaryaudio.com

eric

 

http://www.creativesound.ca/details.php?model=W8740C
http://www.nuera-acoustic.ca/products.html

Nice sub for the price. Seriously. For $29 bucks it's really hard to go wrong when your getting 12Xmax and a nice Fs for an 8 inch going sub duty.

The price difference is substantial between the two when you are talking about $30. IMO.

Here is a review comparing the RE8 and Tangband 8.
http://forum.soundillusions.net/showthread...hlight=tangband

Another short one:
http://forum.soundillusions.net/showthread...hlight=tangband

Brian

 

Not going to force the hand or try to lean you in RE8 direction at all..but i havn't heard the TBs...so can't say anything about them.

but loyd lowery is endevoring to use 18 of the RE8's in his wall.
He also gave it a stellar review on soundillusions "Momentum" magazine, very informative review I may add.
josh gull (that just joined the forum) used one in his SQ firebird sealed in about .35 cubes and it pounded out 139+ on the linearX with minimal power.
And blended so well it was really remarkable.

Try it as you may on lspcad or winisd... they have a great track record...but if a matter of a few dollars will hold you back...you may find that the shipped price for a pair or RE8's is probably very close to the TBs shipped.

Whatever you do...i hope you have fun with it...and please take pics for us to see.

For the record i've been wanting to try a pair of TBs just to find out their capabilities and to have the experience...but getting ready for CES among other things makes time a rare thing to come by.

Have fun and good luck !

 

I welcome the visit either way...we'll go grab some hot wings and put you on the LinearX.

 

The TB 8" is an interesting looking little woofer.
There are a few specs worthy of note, I think:

Particularly, Qes and BL... it's virtually got the same BL value as a Brahma (just a hair below), and a Qes that's remarkably low (Qes is inversely proportional to BL).
That indicates a really strong motor.

Now, because the Qes is so low, that drives Qts to be higher. A high Qts is in many ways proportional to the calculated "EBP" (such as WinISD uses), showing this driver to REALLY prefer ported boxes... ie. "don't even think about putting me in a sealed box, man!"
While many SQ guys love sealed boxes (and seek out subs that work best in sealed boxes), as far as running a pair of 8's goes, I'd definitely run them ported myself. You aren't going to get monster SPL out of these guys to begin with (due to their small cones... although the high excursion helps some), up to 3dB more will be nice, from the ported enclosure.
And... it's different than putting a 'softer' sealed-box-type sub in a ported enclosure (that generally results in flabbiness)... this sub is really ideal for ported boxes.

It's got one hell of an excursion for a 8" sub... 12mm is very impressive, for an 8"... particularly an 8" of this price range.
I believe you could pick up about 4- 6 of these TB 8's for the price of one RE 8"... and 4 - 6 TB 8's wouldn't just outdisplace an RE 8", but it would outdisplace a 12", and even most 15" subwoofers.

Speaking of "price range", there's nothing that I know of that can touch it for the price, particularly in terms of displacement.
For a SQ system, two I am sure would be fine... it of course wouldn't be any SPL machine.

I've modeled these up a bit...
The box that you specified are just the specs that WinISD gives you as a starting point. They don't account for any user preference, any correction for vehicle acoustics (cabin gain), or any other factors that would lead you to modify the design. Just an anechoically-flat response plot, which doesn't mean anything at all when you put it in a car... cabin gain is going to boost your bass response - acoustically - at a rate of 12dB/octave.
That's why "boomin' bass" happens inside a car, and that's also why sealed boxes, with their early, but shallower roll-off, generally yield a nice, flat response in-car.B)

That being said, I didn't stray far from that...
But I thought it would be better in a box somewhere between 0.4cu.ft. - 0.5 cu.ft, tuned to 35hz. Gives a little more low-end extension, and the tiny bit more air per sub will increase efficiency, right at the point where increasing it any further starts to flip up the end of the response plot.
Still a flat response, just even more low end extension.

Model it up, see what you think!

 

Consider that Tang Band is more of an OEM-type buildhouse than it is a "brand"...

If it helps assure you at all, consider that Adire Audio is beginning to use Tang Band as one of their buildhouses... Dan Wiggins showed me a driver at SEMA that he was absolutely raving about, that was built for them by Tang Band. B)

 

LOL, Brahma winds up in every thread over here

I added some input to this thread, but I dropped my connection when I added it :angry: . It was a Geoish post, so I will not retype it...

Basically, ported=yes. I wouldn't seal that driver. Cost, $29?!?!?!?! Go to it man!!! Can't beat that with a stick. Hell, even if it isn't that great (which I think it looks pretty good personally, particularly for $30ish) it wouldn't be a HUGE loss.

I am hoping for some feedback. They may make nice midbass drivers for my front stage!!!

 

Seth.. I make it a habit now of pressing <ctrl-A> and <ctrl-C> before I hit "submit" now, because I'm ashamed of the spitting and swearing impression my wife gets of me the few times that exact thing has happened... and "back" causes a complete screen refresh on you.
Doh! :bye:
That way, the post is in my clipboard.

Anyway...
I was considering doing two of these in my Pathfinder, when it's in "daily driver" mode...
I was thinking, since my back windows don't go down all the way anyways, I could 'glass up a couple of enclosures inside the bottoms of the doors, and probably not even have to build the bottom of the doors out at all even (and yes.. I am thinking about door drainage too ).
The catch would be... it may be tough to port them...
And hell, I measured and ported my current fiberglassed spare tire well enclosure in my Civic.. Hmm....

I need the Pathfinder to be 100% stealth, for "daily driver" operation.