Need help to blow my friend out please.

Discussion in 'General Car Audio Discussions' started by Ksan, May 29, 2008.

  1. Ksan

    Ksan Full Member

    Hello, all i have been readin the boards for a week now trying to decided what to buy. Let me give you a small story on what I am looking for, before i say what I am buying.

    I have a Alpine deck, Polk audion 4 by 6 mid/high dask speakers on a alpine V12 F300 4 channel amp. My friend just went and purchased two 12 inch sony Xplod subs and a 1200watt Sony Xplod amp and is now talking about how I am blown out by it. Well sure I am I have no subs. So i decided to by some other stuff and this is what I am getting. A Hifonics ZXi 1008 amp and two 12 inch Cerwin Vega V-max subs.

    Now i was wondering would this be better sounding and louder that my friends? Also do i need two 2 ohm or two 4 ohm subs to wire them so that the amp is 2ohm load? Thank you for all your help.
     
  2. jayz85

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  4. pedro quiroga

    pedro quiroga Well-Known Member

    well ive seen what a lot of different set ups can do. the sonys are inexpensive and when properly installed can get loud.
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    this kid can hit mid 40's with sony and lanzar equipment. some say they are cheap,but like i said properly installed with the right box and.....you get it.

    so buy the best you can afford or save a bit longer for better equipment, but use common sense when you buy.

    go around to some shops and listem to demo cars if they got them.

    one final thing? how much can you spend,and is all you need a sub amp and subs?
     
  5. pedro quiroga

    pedro quiroga Well-Known Member

    i just read your post agian and it says you have a 4ch amp but only dash speakers? if so then you could always add a sub to the rear outputs of the amp to a sub.

    unless the sole purpose is to beat your friends system.
     
  6. Ksan

    Ksan Full Member

    Sorry it took me so long to get back to you guys and thank you for the replys. I have a 2003 chevy silverado X-tra cab truck that this will be going into. Years ago i had a pair of Cerwin Vega (red&black) Sub's so that is why they were the first to pop back into my head to get. As far as amps i owned a few red Orions but that was 17 years ago, so not sure on amps hifonics use to be good so i decided to go with that.

    The wiring links helped a ton thank you VERY much for that but I have a question about the class d 1-channel amp. Will the 1-channel amp class d run two subs? Or is if for just one sub and I would need two of those amps?

    I have a 4-channel alpine MRv-F300 amp now that runs two tweeters and two polk audio 4 by 6 mids, it is only a 75 watt per channel amp so I doubt it would push the subs. I will keep it on the mids/highs and buy a better sub amp to go with the speakers. This is not JUST to blow my friend out (but would be very FUN to do that) but is also for my listening enjoyment, I am kinda sick of just mid/highs and have waited a long time to get some good subs/amp/bass. I have a good Alpine cd deck running to a Audio Control crossover, then into the Alpine V12 amp so it sounds really good but um....no bass. I am missing the good stuff.

    One last thing, I can spend around $500.00-$650.00 on a amp, subs, box and wiring. It does not have to be the best stuff, I just wanted to know if I could out bump the sony Xplod. Thanks a ton guys and i will let you know how it turns out.

    EDIT....After re-reading your post on the class D and reading the wiring page . I see that they will run two sub's if wired the right way so thank you. Now this brings the question would the class d be better than the 2-channel for running the subs I buy?
     
    Last edited: May 30, 2008
  7. pedro quiroga

    pedro quiroga Well-Known Member

  8. cccullen

    cccullen Full Member

    Welcome to the forums. I had the same Cerwin Vega subs as you had way back in '93. I powered them with a RF punch 150. They were pretty good subs back in the day. The only sub that CV makes that is really any good are the stroker subs.

    Maybe you should take some measurements of the space you have for you subs.

    Another thing we try to suggest is to make your own box. the prefob boxes that pedro recommended are very good boxes but you can save a lot by doing the work yourself. I know that lowes can do the initial cuts for your box if you buy the MDF from them so all your really looking at is getting a design (which some of the guys can help you here with) and just putting it together yourself.

    As far as amp goes, class D amps are the way to go for subs. As what pedro said they are far more efficient than a 4 channel amp or a 2 channel amp. Lets first pick some good subs that will be within your budget and then we help you pick an amp for those subs.

    Beating out your friend who has a sony set up shouldn't be that hard. Pedro got a score on term lab of over 140db with just 1 10" L5!
     
  9. electrolytic

    electrolytic Full Member

    Welcome!! I had some sony xplod subs before they are kife lol, you won't have any problem beating his system. They sound like tin cans too.
     
  10. jonnyv713

    jonnyv713 The Young Gun of CAT

    Gohilla u think the exact way i do! i thought... lol u know! ha ha
     
  11. GohillaAudio

    GohillaAudio Full Member

    haha....great minds think alike
     
  12. electrolytic

    electrolytic Full Member

    lol bastards! Sure take a snapshot when my name is up there eh, i'll get ya back..
     
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  13. jonnyv713

    jonnyv713 The Young Gun of CAT

    hey, i didnt take the picture lol! ha but that makes it even funnier! ha ha
     
  14. cccullen

    cccullen Full Member

    LMAO!!! electro, i didn't know you were into that sort of thing.
     
  15. GohillaAudio

    GohillaAudio Full Member

    hehehe **giggles like a schoolgirl**
     
  16. electrolytic

    electrolytic Full Member

    Well, my friend is a woman, she needs a lot of attention lol.
     

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  17. GohillaAudio

    GohillaAudio Full Member

    GA! lol **meh you dirty rat meh, you see, meh..**
     
  18. Ksan

    Ksan Full Member

    Hmmm..

    Screw you guys I'm Going Home........as soon as someone helps me get a kick ass pair of subs and a amp.../flex