Hello All

Discussion in 'New Member Introductions' started by cc8balla, Jul 24, 2006.

  1. cc8balla

    cc8balla Full Member

    My name is Jason, I'm 20, and some of you might know me from Team-2g. Anyhow, I just bought a 10" Alpine Type-E sub, I have no clue on anything audio, I have no idea what amp I am going to need for this sub, nothing too big since my elec. system is reduced by 30%. But I look forward to learning a bit from this site, and reading about something I know nothing about.
     
  2. Dan42684

    Dan42684 Full Member

    sup Jason, good to see you around here too.

    Edit: I checked out your sub here's info that helps you decide your amp.

    Power Handling Capacity (RMS): 250W
    Power Handling Capacity (Peak): 750W

    you want to get a amp that operats around RMS power, STAY AWAY from peak.

    The Speaker has a resistance of 4 Ohm so you need a amp output of 250W @ 2 Ohms
    (since the + and - on the speaker gets 2 Ohms each 2 + 2 = 4 get it?)

    I did a quick search and I think this amp would be best for your speaker

    JL Slash Series 250/1 Amp

    250 W RMS @ 1.5 ohm-4 ohm (11V-14.5V)
     
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  3. cc8balla

    cc8balla Full Member

    Ahh damn, thanks for that info. Do you think I would need a capacitor since my elec. system puts out 30% less. It couldn't hurt right?
     
  4. Dan42684

    Dan42684 Full Member

    That I wouldn't know.
     
  5. Hautewheeler

    Hautewheeler Full Member

    wassup-

    just for safety's sake, I'd stay away from capacitors at the level your talking about. if you say that your system is taxed by 30%, then a capacitor will only make that worse. - besides.. you won't need it, and you won't see any adverse effects on your system with a 1amp/1sub combo, especially not the type e's. it's a 4ohm svc sub that doesen't require a lot of power (so it's pretty efficient).


    for a nice looking install that will compliment your sub, and do exactly what you want, I'd recommend the alpine mrd 650 or the mrd 1005. -either of those will do nicely.
    ^_^

    oh, and dan.. how did you come up with those impedance figures? - not trying to be mean, and a 2ohm stable amp will work fine for this sub, but is not necessary, and I think someone may have fed you some bad info on how impedance values are determined..
     
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  6. Dan42684

    Dan42684 Full Member

    I learned from when I was thinking about buying Kicker S12D subs and a member on team-2g showed me some wiring diagrams from rockford fosgate.
     
  7. aznboi3644

    aznboi3644 Full Member

    How is your electrical system down 30% ??
     
  8. TheViking

    TheViking Well-Known Member



    Good question!

    What DO you mean by 30% ?

    Is the alternator got a blown diode? regulator trashed? fusible link half ttoast? Runnin KC daylighters on the roof?
     
  9. cc8balla

    cc8balla Full Member

    No, I installed an underdrive pulley on my car. Cuts down the accessories, i.e., power steering and a/c, and alternator, by 30% since it is smaller than the stock crank pulley, and lighter.

    Dan, you know what I am talking about.
     
  10. TheViking

    TheViking Well-Known Member

    I SEE!

    you want a little more umph from the engine......fair enough!

    Welll, ya wanna get to the quickee mart .3 seconds faster, or have your stereo sound good?

    Actually, it would probably only make a small difference in your alternators out[put, but it might be enough to make the thing do better, never know till ya try.
     
  11. cc8balla

    cc8balla Full Member

    Haha, yea. Any little bit helps. Basically what I wanted was an efficient sub that didn't sound too bad, and I want to get better components as well.

    Right now I'm bidding on an Alpine MRP-M450 amp. That should do what I want, right?
     
  12. aznboi3644

    aznboi3644 Full Member

    Well first thing you can do is upgrade the "big three"...just add on a:

    Wire from your alternators output to the battery...fused of course
    Wire from your battery to the chassis
    Wire from your engine block to the chassis

    Upgrade these three points of your electrical system will have it running at its best.
     
  13. Hautewheeler

    Hautewheeler Full Member

    this is what I'm talking about, dan.
     
  14. aznboi3644

    aznboi3644 Full Member

    Dan what you said about that impedance thing makes absolutely no sense...your team is wrong...the type is a single 4 ohm sub...so Balla would need an amp that puts out over 400 watts at 2 ohms...at 4 ohm it would be halved.

    Sorry but whatever you learned about the kickers is totally different...they are DUAL COIL.

    Also...Haute...I drove through there this past weekend going to and from Lafeyette...still smells the same lol...brought back memories though in the apartments.
     
  15. Hautewheeler

    Hautewheeler Full Member

    well, hell, azn,, come down this weekend, we'll be partying like madmen..:D
     
  16. aznboi3644

    aznboi3644 Full Member

    Whats goin on this weekend?
     
  17. Dan42684

    Dan42684 Full Member

    ok the speaker is 4 ohms, amp's output is 2 Ohms from what I was told.

    on the speaker +terminal = 2 Ohms and -terminal = 2 Ohms so 2+2= 4Ohms to match the speaker or is that totally incorrect?
     
  18. clipser-gs-t

    clipser-gs-t Full Member

    Caps are junk, the mrd 1005 is way too damn much, and i'm too tired to type.
     
  19. aznboi3644

    aznboi3644 Full Member

    lol...dan...im sorry...there is only one voice coil...and it is a 4 ohm coil....there really is no "positive" or "negative" of a speaker...doesn't matter which way the power comes in or out...but what will matter is the sound.

    The + is not 2 ohms and the - is not 2 ohms....now say you have a dual 2 ohm woofer wired in series than yes the final load is 4 ohms...what you have been told is garbage if talking about a single voice coil...you also never said anything about the wiring if what you are talking about is dual coil.

    Balla...as for that amp...it will do fine...actually it will work to your advantage because if you ever get another sub you can wire it up for 2 ohms putting out 400 watts...200 watts to each woofer.