I need quick help before I go buy this amp at noon!!

Discussion in 'General Car Audio Discussions' started by Fatty209, Dec 21, 2011.

  1. Fatty209

    Fatty209 Full Member

    I need some quick help before I go shell out money for this amp and I think I can find a quicker answer here, Im suppose to meet the guy at noon, its 8am now, .. here we go

    The amp im going to be lookin at is an Arc Audio 900.1D, I found these specs online

    1 x 350W @ 4 ohms
    1 x 750W @ 2 ohms
    1 x 900W @ 1 ohm

    Im lookin to push TWO dual 4ohm Alpine Type R's, they are rated 500RMS each,

    1. so this amp wired at 1ohm should push these subs correct? I know it says 900w at 1 Ohm, but is this amp 1 ohm stable?

    2. There is a MONO A and a MONO B on this amp (see pics below), kinda like a 2ch amp but it is a class d mono, when I go test this amp to make sure it works Im takin my subs, I should try both MONO A and MONO B side?? and how would I wire this to 1 ohm for my type R-s?

    some quick help before I go buy this amp would be sweet!!!


    vvvv WHat the heck is MONO A and MONO B? ?
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  2. deepbass

    deepbass Full Member

    more so why does it need 3 30amp fuses for 2 channels,
     
  3. danny_khan

    danny_khan Full Member

    exactly that's what i was going to ask. There should be only two fuses not three.
     
  4. danny_khan

    danny_khan Full Member

    yes it will bang the type R's really hard but make sure to use the correct wiring do not use the under rated wires & pot your sub's in sealed enclosure fill it with some lose foam or polyester.
     
  5. danny_khan

    danny_khan Full Member

    this how you wire your subs @ 1 ohm

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  6. kcox669live

    kcox669live Full Member

    My Kenwood does the same thing. I was told it brings the 2 pairs of speaker wire together inside. So you don't have to double the wires up to only 1 set of terminals.
     
  7. danny_khan

    danny_khan Full Member

    Mono A/B is like to chancel MONO amp as you have seen that there are 2 or 4 Chanel stereo amp's same as that this a MONO amp but with double power. so the doesn't heat up a lot & distribute its power into 2 channels.
     
  8. Fatty209

    Fatty209 Full Member

    Well I got the amp, he wanted $200 for the amp, I offered him $150, he took it, i hooked it up and it pushes the type-r's VERY well, super loud, I asked the guy what was up with MONO A and MONO B, he said "Nothing, The Mono A and Mono B are the same thing, nothing different, its not 2ch, it is 1ch, You can plug both your type-rs on mono a or mono b or both, it will produce the same", right now I got them both hooked up to Mono A, maybe i should do one speaker to Mono A and one to Mono B, I dont know but its really loud, and I dont have the amp turned all the way up, is it okay to run an amp with the level/gain to the max?
     
  9. kcox669live

    kcox669live Full Member

    No. Set your gain to match the voltage of the pre-amp out-puts on the hu.
     
  10. Fatty209

    Fatty209 Full Member

    Ok, this is some information from my headunit

    Maximum Supply Current -
    - Decode -
    Preout Level(mV)/Load - Unbalanced 2000mV/10kΩ(CD)
    Preout Impedance(Ω) Under 600Ω
    Speaker Impedance(Ω) 4-8Ω
    AMP
    - Maximum Power 50Wx4
    - Full Bandwidth Power 22Wx4

    Does that say where my gain should be on my Arc Audio?

    And also, when I hooked this Arc Audio amp up, it sounds good and everything, but when I goto turn the truck off, the speakers go "POOF", only sometimes though, what is that? someone told me it could be a bad ground or the gain is up too high on the amp?? I hate that when I goto turn the truck off and it sounds like my speakers gonna blow by goin "POOF!"
     
  11. danny_khan

    danny_khan Full Member

    Start from the zero gain & keep going up until you feel a clear sound. if gain if to low you will not get the max out put if its to high you will hear a shattering sound.
     
  12. Fatty209

    Fatty209 Full Member

    Yeah i think I blew one of the type-r's today, had the gain 3/4 of the way up, it was sounding good all day yesterday, and then all of sudden today I was bumping them and I heard a flappin noise, looked back there, I couldnt see no rips on the sub but the right sub, it was makin a flappin noise when it got turned up, so I dont know if its hitting something or if I blew the fu**er up.. ill check it out tomorrow, the other type-r however sounds fine..
     
  13. kcox669live

    kcox669live Full Member

    That sucks. Don't set your gain by hearing. You can't hear clipping. What kind of hu is it? Do you have the bass boost off? Do you have the bass and treble on 0? I can set my amps gain perfectly with an oscope but if I put the bass on the hu to even 1, it clips out. If you can't find an oscope right now I suggest keeping the gain way down until you do. You can also do it with dmm but I never have never done it that way. Also, every hu clips at a certain volume. You could try finding out where your hu clips out.
     
  14. Fatty209

    Fatty209 Full Member

    No bass boost, and bass on the hu is turned all the way down, my hu is a Kenwood KDC-148, Im not sure if the sub is blown, it sounds good until i turn it up kinda loud, then you can hear flappin, maybe its hittin a screw because I had to drill a couple screws awkward when I put the sub in (at least thats what Im hoping) but we'll see tomorrow when i pull the sub out the box to see if its blown
     
  15. kcox669live

    kcox669live Full Member

    They are 2v. Does the amps gain have a display that you can see where 2v is? It will be somewhere around there.

    Try pushing the sub in and out with your hand. Is it real smooth or can you feel a grinding coming from the voice coils?

    It could def be awkwardly drilled screws. Maybe air leak to. The enclosure is just as important as the sub woofer. Take your time and get it perfect, you'll be a lot happier :)
     
  16. Fatty209

    Fatty209 Full Member

    1. I dont think my amp has a "2v" on the gain or to see where 2v is, but ill check
    2. When i push the sub in and out it sounded find, but Ill check again today
    3. I know i drilled an awkward screw in but i didnt think it was too bad, but Im about to go investigate all these scenarios right now.. lol
     
  17. Fatty209

    Fatty209 Full Member

    oh ya, this amp has a "Subsonic" feature, its currently off, should i turn it on???
     
  18. kcox669live

    kcox669live Full Member

    Yes. You want to filter out any frequencies that you can't hear. But, anyway, that doesn't sound like your prob because it's only happening to 1 sub.
     
    Last edited: Dec 23, 2011
  19. Fatty209

    Fatty209 Full Member

    Ok, I pulled the type-r out of the box, i looked for tears, rips, anything, I cant find nothing, I turn the Head Unit up to get the speaker movin, and it sounds good until I turn it about 25 or 26 on the HU and then it starts makin a flappin sound, i put my hand on the sub while it was turned up and it didnt make the noise and was hittin hard, but as soon as I take pressure off the sub, it makes that flappin sound, I dont know whats wrong but its probably blown Im guessin??
     
  20. kcox669live

    kcox669live Full Member

    Check the spider on both ends all the way around. Check the cone all the way around and the surround also. Something is making that flapping noise, you just have to find it. Did you push the cone in and out while it was off? If you blew it, the voice coil would have burned and unraveled or expanded into the wall of the magnet. You will feel the wires of the voice coils grinding past each other.