Autopage C3RSTKE900 Problems (x2)

might i suggest contacting them thru email, or talk to whom ever installed your alarms.

 

In both cases, the install is not right. Take it back to whoever installed it.

In the first case, if the remote start blows a fuse the car should still start normally. There is no way that the remote start can or should prevent the car from starting normally.

As far as the PT Cruiser, how are you bypassing the factory security? What bypass kit are you using? If the factory key is not working, something is really not installed properly. The factory ket should ALWAYS start the car no matter what happens to the remote start

 

I've never had much luck with Omega, but I know many who swear by them. So I'm probably wrong.

The Autopage system should have a data port, is the interface plugged into that data interface or is it hard wired? My thinking is this (PT Cruiser), it wont start with the factory key becuase the bypass module is "on". Think about it, if the bypass is on the car does not recognize the key.

Try this, next time it wont start, unplug the bypass then try to start it, lets see what happens.

 

2) 20 A fuses blowing....? Hmmm?

And car will not start. I understand that times have changed, Dramitically since my last remote start install back about 2000, but, some things remain constant.

The blowing of a fuse is obvious as to why, excess current draw.

Essentially, we wire into the ignition, start and accesory wires to accomplish the task at hand. What I would be interested to know is WHEN the fuse blows? Is it when something turns on such as a ehater or defrost circuit, or maybe when the A/C clutch kicks in for defrost....etc.

Also, do not rule out the idea that an on board relay could be at fault..... Reminds me...does this remote start run the start wire from the column to the starter THROUGH the unit in series? I hope not! Some unit years ago did that, and when the terminals on board of 30 and 87a failed it would not start

Its very hard to diagnose an issue without the thing in front of your face!

I wil say this also, I installed countless autopage sytems in the bygone years, we sold them cause we had the BEST results and lowest failure rate out of them. They were better than clifford and most others in my opinion, however, times have changed, so........

 

I always run the power wires out to the battery. I have two Autopage remote starts, one in a 98 Tracer the other in a 2010 Toyota. In both cases, power goes to the battery. The autopage has two high current wires and one low current, I wire all three to a single 10ga and head for the battery.



I would still look at the bypass module on the other car. My personal preference is the xpresskit module. Basically I only had to hookup four wires, two to the CAN BUS and the TX RX at the immobilzer. This took care of lock, unlock, all pin switches, tach, and immobilizer. The bypass was connected to the Autopage with the data plug.

By using the data, much less chance of making a wiring error.

 

Like ranger has said....draw power from the battery....and use external relays triggered off the remote starts outputs to run these accesories......I bet that will get ya goin...


The on board relays used even 10-15 years ago on alot of systems were junk in my opinion....I imagine they are even worse now!


But i have to say this also, In most of the RS systems I did, i used the primary voltage source at the steering column....never an issue...

I would tend to look into the vehicle itself from what you said, check for current draw on the circuits you suspect....if one is showing a high current draw...put an external relay on...(fused of course)

 

But in many modern cars, the computer does all the work. There is no need for a high current wire at the ignition column. An example is my 2010 Toyota, there is no wire larger than 14ga at the ignition switch. The new Chev trucks only have 16ga wires at the ignition switch. Again, the computer does everything. Example, if my engine is running, I can turn the key to the start position all day. The computer knows the engine is running and won't crank the starter.

I believe (cann't remember when dodge switched to a CAN BUS system) that the PT Cruiser also has no High current wire at the ignition switch.

 

Outstanding!

Just goes to show how far behind I am in some areas of this!

Thanks Ranger...you are correct. I remember some foreign cars that did this now that you mention that...


Its good to have someone in the know to correct ones self!

 

I installed a few Autopage units before.....had a problem with one. Called tech support and did what they said. Even did a few tricks of my own. Still had problems. My half brother's dad has been installing alarms (possibly) and remote starters ever since they have been made. I think he used to make his own remote starters too. Anyways, he used Autopage for a little while and stopped using them. He said he had too many problems with them. Ive had luck with DEI units, Omega, and most Audiovox stuff.

I dont know if this is common with Autopage units, but I think they take too long to respond compared to other brands. And im talking about the 2-way LCD systems. Installed an Autopage unit using Xpresskit CANMAX on a Caddy Deville. Worked out great and was alot easier (less wires). It just takes awhile to respond with the remote.

I never ran power wires under the hood for a remote starter. But I havent worked on every type of vehicle either. But ive worked on ALOT.

 

Did the Xpresskit really plug into the Autopage unit using the data plug? I installed one and had to use W2W. Either way doesnt matter....just wondering tho.

 

Yes it did. Autopage did have some problems originally with the data part not communicating with some bypass units, but it looks like thats been solved. But ALWAYS double check, Autopage was bad about not being compatible with RS-232 protocol. Again double check. They are always compatible with Fortan. The data plug is pretty much universal (kinda like USB ) and it needs to be with whats coming out of Detriot today. But again, Autopage was notorious for not always working with all interfaces. B)

Look at all the new GMs and Chryslers, NO starter wire. With out the correct bypass (interface) the install just became complicated.

I was an Autopage dealer so I ran into very few problems.

 

Wish I could help more with your problems, but I cant. For me personally, its something I would need to look at myself.

Dont believe in your system working from 1 mile away. It might work like that if you are in a straight line and in the middle of nowhere (flat land/desert). The little delay in starting seems normal to me.

 

Lets see

Your PT cruiser has two accessory wires, a black/orange and a black/white. Check with a volt meter, do they have 0 volts during cranking? If so, The Brown wire from the Autopage can power one of them. The other will be powered through a relay and the Blue/Black from the 20pin connector will control the relay.

From the main power plug the Pink (ignition2) will not be used.

To turn your bypass on, use the yellow wire on the 20-pin connector. USE a relay.
(I know you shouldn't need one, but when in doubt, use a relay)

The factory security system arms and disarms throught the lock/unlock wire. The Autopage locks the doors prior to remote starting. To disarm, the pink wire, 20 pin connector (yes through relays) needs to be used to send a single pulse to the unlock wire. This will disarm the factory security without unlocking the doors. To make sure the factory security is not being armed make sure you turn off the "lock before start feature".

Now here is what I'm not sure about, can the correct interface do unlock, lock, disarm through the cars data line. If so use one. It will save you alot of time.

Just checking, my notes say a 3K resistor to lock and a double pulse through a 7.2K to unlock, is that right?

Now the autopage will need to be programmed to do double pulse, and the pink wire will need to be programmed to do factory disarm

Finally use the Tach Check (not voltage), Black/ Gray at the igntion coil. (correct interface may do this also, but I'm not sure, 2002 was a long time ago and I'm old). The Autopage will need to learn the tach signal, but its in the directions.