Help me please

Discussion in 'Car Stereo Amplifiers' started by 97x, Sep 17, 2009.

  1. 97x

    97x Full Member

    Ok... today I bought a 2000 watt profile california amp. I hooked it up and it was acting funny, blew some fuses. I replaced the fuses with 30a fuses and it took care of it. Now, it's acting really weird still. My subs (kicker l7 10's) keep kicking on and off and just sounding really distorted at a certain point. First though is that the amp is messed up. Tried a 400 watt amp, same thing. 760 watt amp, same thing. I hooked it back up since I really don't think it's the amp and started messing with it again. Regrounded my ground wire, messed with all the settings. It came with a remote bass control, so I turned everything up, except for gain, about 3/4. Everytime I turn it up, bass remote or not, it'll start cutting out, getting distorted, and then the amp will shut off. I don't really know what the problem is. I'm new to car audio and tried all the things I thought it would be. I just want to know what is going on so I can get everything working right. Any advice would be GREAT. I'm sure one of you guys can come up with something to fix it. Sorry for the lengthy bs but just kinda out of it and ready for sleep.
    Just before anyone tells me to turn my gain down, I have and unless it's up fairly high it doesn't hit hard at all now. My 600 watt insignia amp hit a lot harder than this one is able to without distorting.

    Thanks guys.
     
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  2. 97x

    97x Full Member

    If you guys have any idea, please just text me.
    937-245-2227
     
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  3. cccullen

    cccullen Full Member

    OK, first off I need to know whether your subs are dual 4ohm or 2ohm subs.

    secondly, i need a link to the amp you bought. Just to make sure you have the subs wired properly. if your impedance is too low then you risk screwing up the amp. disconnect it for now until we get this figured out.

    Also, i need to know how you wired everything and what gauge wires you used.
    1. Are you fused under the hood? what's the size of the fuse?
    2. I need to know how you ran your power and what side of the car you ran the wire.
    3. where your grounds are located. and what side of the car you ran the ground.
    4. where your RCA's are connected and what side you ran the RCA's.
     
  4. 97x

    97x Full Member

    Ok... all of my wires are pretty small. I don't know what size they are but they're the ones that came with the truck forever ago. I'd say around 16g. I took the fuse out from under the hood and just ran the wire straight. Idk honestly about the subs, I bought them used, so IDK. I ran everything on the drivers side. The ground is bolted down where the rear seat is. Power wire is ran under the carpet and through a plastic panel then going out between the door and fender. What do you mean about my RCA's? Just to the head unit and amp?

    http://www.profileusa.com/products_amps_ap.cfm
     
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  5. 97x

    97x Full Member

  6. cccullen

    cccullen Full Member

    your RCA's should run on the opposite side as your power. they shouldn't get ran together.

    Is your ground wire ground to BARE metal? if not, you should sand it down to bare metal then reconnect it.

    It also sounds to me like your wires are way too small. you should be using at least 4ga wires for installing that amp. Like i said before, just disconnect it for now then buy a set of 4ga wires at like a walmart or something.

    Your power wire going to the amp from the battery should be fused near the battery with a 100amp fuse if that's the only amp you are currently using.

    Lastly, I really have to know whether your subs are either dual 4ohm or 2ohm subs. do you have the amp bridged right now or are you wiring 1 sub to each channel of the amp?
     
  7. 97x

    97x Full Member

    it's bridged.
     
  8. cccullen

    cccullen Full Member

    how did you wire the subs up? can you explain it? did anybody help you do it?

    with those kinds of subs, they have 2 voice coils so they have 2 sets of +'s and -'s.

    I think that's where your main problem is, you wired the subs to an impedance way too low for the amp. When you have the amp bridged, it can only handle a 4ohm impedance.
     
  9. 97x

    97x Full Member

    ...i just put the positives together and the negatives together and wired them to the amp? I thought that's how you bridged them?
     
  10. cccullen

    cccullen Full Member

    oh, by the way, i just want to make sure... are you running 2 10" L7's?
     
  11. 97x

    97x Full Member

    Yeah that's right.
     
  12. cccullen

    cccullen Full Member

    no no no no... that's not how you bridge an amp.. you get the outter left side of the amp for the positive for the speaker connections and the outter right side negative for the negative. that will bridge the amp and give you 960 watts RMS x 1 bridged output at 4 ohms (4-ohm stable in bridged mode).

    you have to wire the subs like this (assuming that your subs are dual 4ohm subs).
     

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  13. 97x

    97x Full Member

    yeah that's how i wired it.
     
  14. cccullen

    cccullen Full Member

    here's a pic of where to put the wires from your subs after you follow the proper wiring diagram for the subs.
     

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  15. 97x

    97x Full Member

    yeah dude that's the way it's wired... unless the sub wires are wrong. silver negative brown positive right?
     
  16. cccullen

    cccullen Full Member

    ok, are you very sure???

    if you are then be sure to buy a 4ga amp kit at walmart before hooking up the amp again and make sure you fuse it with a 100amp fuse under the hood close to the battery..

    Can you get your hands on a DMM (digital multimeter)? Since you don't know the impedance of your subs you should check to make sure before connecting them to your amp again. It's very important for your amps sake to know the impedance of your subs. they may be dual 2ohm subs which could fry your amp if you wired it like i showed you above.

    If you can get your hands on a DMM, here's how you'll check the impedance of your subs:
    http://www.ehow.com/how_5068180_measure-speaker-impedance.html
     
  17. 97x

    97x Full Member

    yeah positive. would the wiring make that big of a difference?
     
  18. cccullen

    cccullen Full Member

    it would make a huge difference.

    if your subs are dual 2ohm and you wired them in series/parallel then it would give you a final impedance of only 2ohms. your amp while it's bridged can only handle a 4ohm load, if you have it wired for a 2ohm load then it COULD and most likely will fry your amp... that's why it's imperative to find out what your subs are. DVC 4ohm or DVC 2ohm subs...
     
  19. 97x

    97x Full Member

    i meant wire thickness...? i'm pretty sure my subs can handle that amp easily can't they?
     
  20. cccullen

    cccullen Full Member

    that's very important too. if the wires are too small then you can run a risk of the wires getting hot and even burning.

    the subs can handle the amp but the amp can't handle the subs if they are wired wrong.