Elemental Designs ED 13Kv.2 ChrisFish

Okay now.....

just to confirm a couple assumptions;

As long as I keep the cubic footage, and port size / length the same, it won't hurt anything if I change the shape of the box to a slanted face design, correct ? I'm pretty confident with my math

Another interesting thing comes to mind..... I could very easily build the 33hz box design you have posted here, then convert it back to the 39hz box you first posted, if I wasn't completely happy. Simply, chop the ports off shorter, and use blocks inside the box to take up the required amount of space.

Oh, and did you say that your program chooses the number and size of the ports for you (which are best for these subs) ? The reason I ask, is that one 6" port would look a little cooler, and be a bit easier to build. Will it let you type that in ?

One last thing, speaking of ports... The 33hz design you have shown, calls for the ports to be 16" in length. So, would I A) have to use elbow joints, B ) have to have the port openings exit the side of the box, or C) be able to have several inches of port extend out of the box (preferably, the top) > which BTW, would make it easier to convert to a 39hz box later, if I wanted too ;-) LOL

Anyway, thanks again. I'm hoping this stuff is just fun for you, as I don't wan't to be a pest,

Peace,
Fish

 

i doubt one 6" port will be enough port area. two 6" ports should be plenty though.

 

Okay Electrolytic....

you've twisted my arm

Actually, I think I've finally come to a realization; Correct me if I'm wrong...
But while I've been trying to buck the idea of a little higher tuning, the fact is, "these particular speakers" really want to be tuned at 39hz.

I guess if I go on and tune my enclosure to 39hz, and this does not give me low enough bass, the smart thing to do "would not be" to change the tuning of these speakers from 39hz to 33 or 30hz...... but rather, to get some different subs that "like to be" tuned to 30hz, or even a bit lower, and build a new box accordingly.

Speaking of which, do you know of any subs which hit "extra low", yet are $200 or less, and in the 400wt RMS power range ?

And would most 15"s be better for ultra-low bass, than 12"s (of the same brand and series of course... to compare apples to apples) ?

BTW, I heard (felt) a Cadillac Escalade near my work yesterday, that had to be hitting 25hz or lower "with force" ! Of course it didn't really sound loud, even standing 30 feet from it... But I walked into the store, and it actually sounded louder, because our store is quieter {without the road noise from passing vehicles and such}. So then my co-worker comes out from the back of the store, and asks, "Did you hear that stereo slamming" ? He was surprised when I told him that I walked right past it and "I felt it more, but it probably sounded louder inside the store.... and maybe even just as loud, in the back of the store.
Ultra-low bass is some trippy stuff.
But it's intriguing to me, as its not the norm. I wish I could have talked to that guy, and found out what he had going on in that Caddy.....

Peace,
Fish

PS, Hey Electro, you will have to be patient with me (believe me, its killing me more than you ! ....but although I already have all my styereo equipment {amp, HU, speakers} I still have to have an alarm installed.... build my rear false floor and wall... install my extra battery plus isolator. Probably another $1200 before I can actually listen to the first tune :-(
Good thing I'm a hard-core fisherman ! I'm quite used to waiting

 

one 6" port is enough...also have you ever really heard a 25Hz sine wave??? I doubt that caddy was playing it with force

 

If I recall, Ranger told me that its not the tuning that makes low bass, its the size of the enclosure. I have a 5.25 ft^3 box tuned high and it loves the low notes. Ranger said the higher tuning the louder and bigger the box, the lower the bass its capable of. He tunes his everyday boxes to like 35hz and his comp boxes to 40-45hz.

 

Hey Jonnyv.....

So you have four 13Kv.2's, in 5.25 cubes ? That's about 1.3 cubes each, and they hit nice and low, huh ? So with mine in 1.5 cubes each, do you think I might be pleasently surprised ?
BTW, what is your enclosure tuned at ? Do you have your box design shown anywhere ?

Hey did you know that our 13Kv.2's have been discontinued ??? I hope we don't have any problems with them now.......

Peace,
Fish

 

13Kv.2s are discontinued

 

eD is coming out with a whole new series.

 

no only have 2 of them in there now. when i have all 4 it will be about 10 or 11 cubes

 

Wow !

Jonnyv, you said

Now this is very interesting ! I can do 2.3 cubes per sub if it would help me hit the lows.....
But let me ask you this; Comparing your 13Kv.2's in 2.6 cubes each, to other subs you have had (or even just, that you have heard) how 'musical' would you say your ED's are ? Are they still tight ? How many watts are you giving them ?

Electro, not to pit you and Ranger against one another (obviously, you both know way more than I do .....but do you go along with higher tuning = louder, but bigger box = lower ???

Fish