Computer CPU Upgrade

Discussion in 'Off Topic Discussion' started by Ranger SVO, Aug 22, 2008.

  1. Ranger SVO

    Ranger SVO Full Member

    I'm gonna try this, my laptop has a Celeron M 410 in it. Its has a blazing speed of 1.46GHz and its a Solo Core.

    Now I have researched this and I believe its possible,

    http://forum.notebookreview.com/showthread.php?t=285839

    I'm gonna replace the single core with a Pentium Dual Core T2250. I have already located the T2250 and its on its way. If any of you have built computers or know someone who builds computers, what can I expect when I first boot the computer with the new CPU in it???????????????????????
     
  2. tyrant1014

    tyrant1014 Full Member

    no but I still fin it hard to belive that you are using that chisel and stone... nahh if anyone can do it... you can.
     
  3. fstrfvo

    fstrfvo Full Member

    I have never done a laptop but i have built about 7 or 8 desktops. So you want to go to from Celeron to Dual core. I have not looked it up but are you looking at the 45 NM arcitecture with Hafnium insulator. Does the dual core have the same number of sockets as the single core chip? If the mobo is compatible the only other thing i can think of is that you may need to bump up the voltage to the cpu even though that design is supposed to be a low voltage design. But if it boots good and is stable dont worry about it. Of course you will need to get some more and faster ram to take advantage of that processor. How many sticks can you fit in that thing. Corsair has always been of good quality and usually faster than most other brands. That bad boy may put out a lot of heat, usually the smaller they get the more heat they put out. Are you running XP or Vista??
     
  4. Ranger SVO

    Ranger SVO Full Member

    Thanks for your response, it is greatly appreciated.

    I've already done alot of the research, both CPU's are physically the same. Both are 478 pin "Yonah". So both are 65nm. The only concern we had was chipset, we realized that the Celeron M is basically a dual core with one core inactive. As far as power the Celeron M is a 27 watt processor, the T2250 is a 31 watt.

    I have already maxed out the RAM, the computer came with 512Mb which I increased to 2Gb.

    The OS Is XP Pro with SP3, also the Bios has been updated, by the way, L35 series laptops with Dual Cores use this same Bios Version.

    I'm just not sure what to expect when I boot it for the first time.

    If all this works (it should) I'll have a laptop with a Pentium Dual Core 1.73Gb, 2Gb of Ram with DVD RW, 80Gb SATA hard Drive and less than $425 invested

    I know, its old and slow but the price was right. What can I say. The laptop is my toy. My Desktop has an Intel Extreme 3.4GHz Processor. It screams.
     
    Last edited: Aug 23, 2008
  5. tyrant1014

    tyrant1014 Full Member

    for some reason mine doesn't scream as much as it should anymore... have fun with the project.:D
     
  6. fstrfvo

    fstrfvo Full Member

    Just wondering if you have the Intel active monitor on your computer. As long as they are both socket 478 everthing should be good and gravy. When it boots you should have no problems, it should boot as normal. If it keeps rebooting you may need to bump up your core voltage just a tad, but it looks like you did your homework and already have your ram upgraded. Just wondering what brand of ram and its latency that you are using.
     
  7. Ranger SVO

    Ranger SVO Full Member

    I dont remember the brand, and I have no idea what Latency is. So your gonna have to explain it.

    Does this give you the info you want?

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  8. fstrfvo

    fstrfvo Full Member

    yes if you look at the bottom of the page it shows CAS latency. thats what you want to look at, it shows you are running pc 5300 at 333mhz, which means the your computer is using is of 5 clock cycles at 333 mhz. Which by most standards is pretty slow, BUT you have ddr2 so you are doubling your bandwidth. Unless you are going to be playing extremely crazy games that have a lot of things going on at once or using multiple applications all at one time you should be just fine. What types of things do you use this computer for??
     
  9. Ranger SVO

    Ranger SVO Full Member

    Goofing off mostly. I've tried to do some video processing (specifically, turning an .avi file to a .vob and burn it to a DVD) with it but it said "time estimate 2hrs 30min". And then I couldnt do anything else.

    I gave up after 10 min and sent the job to the desktop. It did the job in 40 minutes and I could still do other things with the desktop.

    The laptop will not be my main computer, but there are time when portable has its advantages. So a little more processing power would be great.
     
  10. electrolytic

    electrolytic Full Member

    Sup? What motherboard model # and brand do you have? Only thing i can see stopping it would be the bus frequency of the motherboard, if the board can push only 233mhz bus then your processor won't work in that board.
     
  11. Ranger SVO

    Ranger SVO Full Member

    electrolyic, where have you been hiding?

    I'm already 99% sure this will work. When you get a chance, go to the link in post #1. I've been researching this for a couple of weeks now. This should work.

    Basically the list of processors that should work are the T2450 and the T2350 (too expensive). More reasonabaly priced would be the T2250. All these are 2M cache. The T2050 would be the slowest CPU in this group

    The next list are all 1M cache and they will also work. From lowest to highest they are the T2060, T2080 and the T2130.

    All these will work. I just had no idea what to expect when I boot it for the first time with the new CPU in it. According to fstrfvo it should boot normal, and since he has built more computers than I have (I've built 0 so far), I'm gonna assume he knows what he is talking about.:D
     
    Last edited: Aug 23, 2008
  12. electrolytic

    electrolytic Full Member

  13. Ranger SVO

    Ranger SVO Full Member

    I have that on my desktop. Nothing useful in it.
     
  14. electrolytic

    electrolytic Full Member

    lol, ya i just went throught it, that was pretty useless. One way to tell for sure is if you go into your bios and then advanced tab, it will show your processor and its current FSB front side bus frequency, you should see like 3 options 133, 233 333 mhz, if your options stop at 233mhz then i would say no you can't use it, but i did see some people trying to do this when i did a quick search and some for sale with a dual core so your probably good to go.
    I would check the bios before buying the processor though. to get to your bios restart your computer and start hitting delete or F2 usually can get you there, don't change any settings in there though it's dangerous in there lol, when you exit it will say save changes and exit hit no, don't save and exit. That way you don't change anything when you go in.
     
  15. electrolytic

    electrolytic Full Member

    oh ya, any laptop i have opened the processor is soldered in to the board and it can't be changed lol, just a thought.
     
  16. electrolytic

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  17. electrolytic

    electrolytic Full Member

    It should boot fine if the bus is right when you first turn it on, if not it will take you to the bios anyways and usually you can just let it go there then just exit but save changes and exit this time.
     
  18. electrolytic

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  19. electrolytic

    electrolytic Full Member

    hard to find info on this i would go into the bios it's takes 2 minutes and under the advanced tab you will see what FSB frequencies you have to choose from, but don't change anything in there and exit without saving.
     
  20. electrolytic

    electrolytic Full Member

    Gonna step out for a smoke! lol back a little after.