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Looking to Upgrade System

Discussion in 'General Car Audio Discussions' started by Forum.Border, Jun 9, 2008.

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  1. Forum.Border

    Forum.Border Full Member

    I'm looking to upgrade the system in my 1949 ford pickup(Regular Cab) as i am completely redoing the entire interior and upholstery. Thinking of going with:
    2 Kicker 12" CVT(slim)
    Alpine MRP-M850
    Alpine MRP-F450
    Alpine Type R 6-1/2" Component 2 way
    Alpine Type R 5x7" Coaxial 2-way

    Looking for suggestions on better equipment choices or anything to make better sound without going crazy on price
     
    Forum.Border, Jun 9, 2008
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  2. cccullen

    cccullen Full Member

    Welcome to CAT!

    Looks like we have an alpine fan here. lol... Alpine is a solid brand. I would suggest you look for another sub other than the kicker CVT's, i heard they aren't so great.
     
    cccullen, Jun 9, 2008
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  3. forbidden

    forbidden Full Member

    If you are after a superior system, consider Morel for the speakers. I would look at a one amp system in this case, the Eclipse XA5000 would be my choice. Lots of power and class D for overall efficiency. It is a perfect match of power on all 4 channels to the sub channel. Enough to get respectably loud without being overwhelming. Using a amp in this circumstance will limit the amount of real estate being used to mount the amp, eliminate wiring and in general it does a great job. The new Kenwood Excelon shallow mount sub has proven to be a nice subwoofer as well.

    www.eclipse-web.com for the amp, it is a last years model now so it may not be listed.
    www.morelhifi.com for superior speakers.

    What is the source going to be?
     
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  4. pedro quiroga

    pedro quiroga Well-Known Member

    my guess would be that you may not need the rear speakers being a reg cab truck. i tried some in my old 87 reg cab and it thru my image to the rear. no matter how the gain was set.

    are you doing kick panels or in the doors(assuming you can put them in the doors)
     
    pedro quiroga, Jun 9, 2008
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  5. Forum.Border

    Forum.Border Full Member

    i was thinking of putting the 6-1/2s behind the seats cause they arnt smothered in my truck by seat as it is buckets, and then the tweaters a little above them, then the 5x7's in the kick pannels which is currently how i have it on my old system just no tweaters
     
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  6. Forum.Border

    Forum.Border Full Member

    Also for subs would you go 2 or 1 type thing, that has been my biggest dilemma, ive got 1 12"CVT already in there or should i switch to two of something or one of something else
     
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  7. electrolytic

    electrolytic Full Member

    Welcome, 1949 ford pickup? Sweet! any pics?
     
    electrolytic, Jun 9, 2008
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  8. Forum.Border

    Forum.Border Full Member

    yeah ill throw some up, and i dare you to find another one like it with 33's and 4 wheel drive
     
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  9. cccullen

    cccullen Full Member

    is it in a sealed or port enclosure?
     
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  10. cccullen

    cccullen Full Member

    since it's a pick up, i wouldn't bother with a rear sound stage. Personally, I would put some 6.5's up front and totally ditch the 5x7's. Go with some good 6.5 components.

    I'd love to see some pics of your truck. It's gotta look sweet!!!
     
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  11. Forum.Border

    Forum.Border Full Member

    box is gonna be ported forsure, so you guys think that just 6-1/2's and tweaters mounted behind the seats? or where
     
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  12. electrolytic

    electrolytic Full Member

    Was there originally speakers in the doors? If you use the doors they act like a box when mounted properly and give some extra bass.
     

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  13. pedro quiroga

    pedro quiroga Well-Known Member

    dont put the speakers behind the seat. they wont sound good.

    put them in the front. if you have front speakers now maybe you can add the tweets to them. give it a shot. you may like the results.
     
    pedro quiroga, Jun 10, 2008
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  14. Forum.Border

    Forum.Border Full Member

    i have my 5x7s in the kick pannels, so you are saying have a set of 6-1/2s one in each kick panel and then a tweater and 2 subs?
     
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  15. Forum.Border

    Forum.Border Full Member

    2 tweaters* so then its just a set of speakers and subs
     
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  16. cccullen

    cccullen Full Member

    well if you have 5x7's in the kick panels (that's near the floor) why not put some 6.5's in the doors and tweets on the dash? that would give you a nice front stage.
     
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  17. jonnyv713

    jonnyv713 The Young Gun of CAT

    ya ditch the rear stage a good 6.5 component set would be good in kicks. i took out my rear speakers. then i would go wit 2 10's in the back behind seets mounted as low in the box as possible (read it on another site). i have 1 12 in a prefab box in my truck and it sounds descent. it says to use 10's because 12's need more room between the seat and the sub to have the sound waves produce. i dont really know if this is true though...
     
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  18. Forum.Border

    Forum.Border Full Member

    i know what you are saying on the possible damage to the subs if there isnt enough space, but i gotta talk to my installer and see if i can squeeze some more airspace in the back there, but im not going with 10's i only listen to rap and some techno, so i like the deep base, not so much the crispness
     
    Forum.Border, Jun 10, 2008
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  19. cccullen

    cccullen Full Member

    I tend to shy away from 10's as well but pedro is using 1 10" kicker L5 and he gets great lows with his. he even broke 140db on the TL.
     
    cccullen, Jun 11, 2008
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  20. Forum.Border

    Forum.Border Full Member

    Also another quick question, i'm thinking of running 2 12" Alpine Type X's in a custom ported box in my Escape, but is 4 5x7's Type S (1 in each door) enough to keep up
     
    Forum.Border, Jun 11, 2008
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