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Amplifier for a pair of ORION HCCA 15"

Discussion in 'General Car Audio Discussions' started by francoz, Mar 27, 2008.

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  1. francoz

    francoz Full Member

    Hello, i have just bought a pair of ORION HCCA 15" 4ohm DVC, but now i need to find the appropriate amplifier for them i will have them for daily use but i want them to sound loud, i already have a MASSIVE P3000.1 that was powering my old pair of kicker s15l7, but it gives its max output at 2ohm and the orions are dual 4ohm so will give 2ohm per sub coils in pararel or 1 ohm the pair of subs all coils in pararel, so this amp works fine with one orion sub only now the question is what would be better, buy another massive p3000.1 and have one of them for each sub or sell the massive and get other amplifier or amplifiers, i was looking at the orion hcca 5000.1 but it seems to be rated just 2500 rms at 1 ohm, the massive says 2600rms at 2ohms.

    Also i what kind of box should i build, i plan to install it in a 2006 4runner, i think i have some room

    hope you can help me with this i know there are many of you that like orion so maybe i can get some help

    Thanks
     
    francoz, Mar 27, 2008
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  2. electrolytic

    electrolytic Full Member

    Welcome !!
     
    electrolytic, Mar 27, 2008
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  3. electrolytic

    electrolytic Full Member

    Orion HCCA-15.4

    4” copper Wound Voice Coil on an Aluminum Former, High temperature PAARC (Polyester Amide, Amide Resin Coated)
    Continuous power handling will be 1500W (under rated)
    Peak power handling: 10” 3000W 12 & 15” 4000W
    Burp power in excess of 4000W on 10” and 5000W on 12 & 15”
    X-Max estimated at 30mm (total travel 4” peak to peak)
    Field Replaceable Cone / Voice coil / Spider Assembly
    Dual Flat Conex Spiders with Loop/Stitched Tinsel Leads
    Tall, wide, balanced, Foam (high density expanded polyester foam) surround for linear controlled long excursion using a Tri-Radius symmetrical edge design optimized on non-linear FEA
    Enhanced voice coil cooling system (forced convection – aluminum heat sinking – shorting rings to reduce inductive heating)
     
    electrolytic, Mar 27, 2008
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  4. fstrfvo

    fstrfvo Full Member

    I always like the Earthquake PHD 5000 for the big subs. What is your budget??
     
    fstrfvo, Mar 27, 2008
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  5. cccullen

    cccullen Full Member

    I think the Earthquake isn't 1ohm stable.

    Sundown SAZ-3000D, if you have the budget for it.
     
    cccullen, Mar 27, 2008
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  6. fstrfvo

    fstrfvo Full Member

    Earthquake 3000 watts at 2 ohm and 5000 watts at 1 ohm.
     
    fstrfvo, Mar 27, 2008
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  7. cccullen

    cccullen Full Member

    oh, didn't know that. I thought it was 5000 watts peak power.. my bad.
     
    cccullen, Mar 27, 2008
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  8. francoz

    francoz Full Member

    Thanks guys for receiving me, i am an old but new user i have joined in 2002 but i think after the rebuild of the website i lost my posts count,

    Well here in my country Venezuela, the main problem is that there arent many brands to choose from, like in your country, but, we can get some named brands, some goods, and some not, here we can get easier ,rockford, kicker, lanzar, boss, now orion, massive, and some others , but in some cases i can buy from ebay and bring them here.

    Anyway, the budget may not be a problem , i got some money selling my old equipment, and can afford to buy a good amp, of course not extremely expensive, i dont have an exact amount in mind, as i said i was thinking in the orion hcca 5000 but it says to be just 2500rms, is this amp very underrated or its really 2500rms? the other near option is to get another massive 3000.1 and hook 1 to each sub?, what do you think guys about massive?, other options is to go with other amps that if i can find them in the local market would be easy, if dont i have to gert them from ebay in usa.
     
    francoz, Mar 27, 2008
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  9. electrolytic

    electrolytic Full Member

    The earthquake isn't one ohm stable

    PH5000W/D1
    Digital Mono

    Number of channels: 1 / Mono Block
    Max power output: 5000 Watts
    RMS power 2-ohm: 3000 Watts
    RMS power 4-ohm: 1500 Watts
    Class: "J" Digital
    Speaker connection: 8-Gauge
    Recommended power connection: 0-Gauge
    Dimension: 2.375" x 10.125" x 15"

    EarthQuake Amplifiers @ LightAV.com 877-390-1599 Earthquake,ph800w/2,ph1000w/2ph2200w/4,ph800w,ph1000w,ph2200w,ph2000w/d1,ph5000w/d1,ph10000w/d1,ph20000w/d1,ph2000w,ph5000w,phd,mono,sub,block,2,4,ch,channel,tnt,xtreme,powerhouse,tnt500w/2,tnt1000w/2,
     
    electrolytic, Mar 27, 2008
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  10. fstrfvo

    fstrfvo Full Member

    I did not see a link but if you go to EarthquakeSound and look at the PH5000 amp it states power at 1ohm is 5000 watts, 3000 at 2 ohms. No big anyway it seems its not available where he lives.
     
    fstrfvo, Mar 28, 2008
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  11. cccullen

    cccullen Full Member

    Rockford Fosgate Power T40001BD are some real good amps that's 4,000 watts at 1ohm. EXPENSIVE but worth it if you have the money (i don't).

    Personally i don't know much about massive.
     
    cccullen, Mar 28, 2008
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  12. G3n3R@1

    G3n3R@1 Full Member

    G3n3R@1, Mar 28, 2008
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  13. pedro quiroga

    pedro quiroga Well-Known Member

    the massive looks nice.
     
    pedro quiroga, Mar 28, 2008
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  14. francoz

    francoz Full Member

    These massives are two 1500.1 linked in the same case, i think two of them will pull a lot of power i will need some updates in my electrical systemn i already have a batcap 2000, i have heard many people dont like the earthquake , sont know why, but if its really 1 ohm stable and is quite efficient, could be a good deal.
     
    francoz, Mar 28, 2008
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  15. electrolytic

    electrolytic Full Member

    ok, cool, my bad, that's good to know. Wonder why the other site didn't list it in their specs. It must be though. But his subs are 1500 watts rms a piece so the amp will have to be about 3000 watts @ 1 ohm.

    PH5000W/D1
    Number of channels: 1/Mono
    Class: "D"
    Max Power Output: 5000 Watts
    Power 1-Ohm: 1 x 5000 Watts
    Power 2-Ohm Bridged: 1 x 3000 Watts
    Power 4-Stereo: 1 x 860 Watts
    Damping Factor: >800
    Cross Over Slopes: 24dB/OCT
    THD: >0.016
    SNR: 104dB
    Speaker Connections: 8-Gauge
    Power/Ground Connections: 0-Gauge
    Input Types: Low Level RCA Inputs
    Dimensions (HxWxD): 2.375" x 10.125" x 15"
    MSRP: $1,373.00
     
    electrolytic, Mar 28, 2008
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  16. electrolytic

    electrolytic Full Member

    ohhhh, it's a different amp that's why lol.
     
    electrolytic, Mar 28, 2008
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  17. danracer

    danracer Full Member

    hola!! well you can order the sundown 3000 or maybe a Incriminator Audio 40.1...or you can also get a lanzar opti 4000, rockford 3k...it all depends on the cash you have to spend
     
    danracer, Mar 28, 2008
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  18. fstrfvo

    fstrfvo Full Member

    Dont the HCCA subs handle more power than that?? I was always under the impression that they could handle like 4000 watts or so. But I guess im wrong. Maybe im thinking of the CV Stroker.
     
    fstrfvo, Mar 28, 2008
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  19. francoz

    francoz Full Member

    in the box they say 2000rms 4000peak, but according to the info that electrolytic posted seems they can handle some high peaks
     
    francoz, Mar 28, 2008
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  20. fstrfvo

    fstrfvo Full Member

    Electro probably got the info from their website. It states that the subs are rated at 1500 watts rms, but it also states that is underated. I remember back in the day before DEI bought the company, man those HCCAS could handle monster power..
     
    fstrfvo, Mar 28, 2008
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