Future of car audio

Discussion in 'General Car Audio Discussions' started by Ranger SVO, Jan 7, 2007.

  1. TheViking

    TheViking Well-Known Member

    Good greif son, you are getting into alternitive energy and HAM radio communications, whats next? homemade shine?


    Just so happens i am knowledgable in alot of those areas!!!! LOL
     
  2. Ranger SVO

    Ranger SVO Full Member

    Bath Tub Beer???????????????????
     
  3. electrolytic

    electrolytic Full Member

    Got that too!:)

    The basic ingredients:

    corn meal
    sugar
    water
    yeast
    malt

    The basic process:

    Mix all ingredients together in a large container. After mixing, move the mixture, called "mash," into a still and leave it to ferment. How quickly this process occurs depends on the warmth of the mash.


    Heat the mash to the point of vaporization at 173 degrees. The mash will produce a clear liquid, often the color of dark beer. You must watch this process with careful attention.

    Trap vapor using a tube or coil. The vapor will be transferred into a second, empty container. The resulting condensation is the moonshine. It is then ready to drink or sell.

    Keep mash in container. It is now called "slop." Add more sugar, water, malt, and corn meal and repeat the process.

    Repeat the process up to eight times before replacing the mash.
     
  4. electrolytic

    electrolytic Full Member

    don't eat the slop LOL
     
  5. electrolytic

    electrolytic Full Member

    That Microwave Radio is a little more than HAM LOL, read a little about it, it receives tv signals, satellite signals, radio signals and i think it can tap into any closed circuit camera system if you are within range. Its a sweet little toy wish i had the doe, it's probably worth over $15,000.00
     
    Last edited: Jan 9, 2007
  6. TheViking

    TheViking Well-Known Member




    Cheaper way....


    12 Qts cracked corn (chicken feed)
    50 lbs sugar
    1 pkg fleischmans yeast
    There are a few variations to the recipe, but i aint givin them out.....




    Do not cook the mash off!!!!! Pour off the liqiud!!!!! then cook it off!!!!! It tastes better that way. And dont reuse the mash, start off new each time. Done this a "few" times, for use an alternative fuel of course, would NEVER think of drinking it or selling, cause that is illegal, and i obey the law.......
     
  7. Ranger SVO

    Ranger SVO Full Member

    I could learn alot here
     
  8. TheViking

    TheViking Well-Known Member

    Yes, and somehow, somewhere, in some way, this deals with the future of car audio!!! LOL


    PS, make sure your pipe fitting dont leak on the boiler, especially if you are gunna use a gas stove for the cook...............Dont ask.......
     
  9. double b26

    double b26 Full Member

    i know the thread is old old old...but blaupunt (or however you spell it...) now has that receiver that has no cd player at all. just a tuner and a host of various inputs for ipods and stuff. i would say the aritcle was pretty on-point about this one.

    EDIT: after reading the 'shine receipt's, i had to add my 2 cents...

    you can also make stout ass wine really easy. just take concentrate fruit juice, sugar, yeast and water. put it all in a 3-5 gallon jug of some sort. put a small balloon over the opening on top of the jug. thats the hard part.

    now, just let it set for about a month. keep an eye on the balloon throughout tho. when it fills with gas, release the pressure. after a few weeks or so, you have some wine. now to make it stonger....

    pour the wine into gallon jugs. freeze them. now, strain out the ice, but keep the un-frozen liquid. each time you do that, it will proof up the wine a good bit (cant remember exactly how much). just taste it, you'll know if its good. if its not strong enough, freeze and strain again. keep doing it until it has a good burn to it when you take a swig. then you know its right.

    usually i get a little more than a gallon out of a 5 gallon jug of the actual wine...after freezing and straining. but that gallon is potent!!! and well worth the work (if you call it that).

    salute!!!!

    PS: you should look into making some homebrew absenth!!! thats fun!!
     
    Last edited: Apr 18, 2007
  10. FocalEnthusiast

    FocalEnthusiast Full Member

    CD Players will always be the standard of almost every Sound Quality enthusiast. I think for a while atleast. You cannot achieve the same sound quality through ripped cd's as, with a 24-bit DAC CD-player.

    I would like to see some digital storage geared towards Sound Quality, anyone know of some?
     
  11. Ranger SVO

    Ranger SVO Full Member

    More and more stuff is on the way. A couple of years ago Kenwood had the Music Keg. It was too soon, people were not ready. I don't think it will be back because of the Ipod. With hard drives as big as 80Gb you can store more music that you can imagine.

    I cannot remember the last time I put a CD in my CD player. All the music I need is on my Ipod.

    Also, I have NEVER had a customer that has been able to tell the difference between the Ipod and the CD player. (I would use the same song and switch back and forth from Ipod to CD)

    Car Puter is another option but still a little pricey. More will be on the way. Phatnoise does make Music Kegs but only for a select few models. Hopefully that will change in a few years.

    Ipod still has the advantage because its portable.
     
  12. double b26

    double b26 Full Member

    the way i understand it, you can achieve cd-quality sound by using the '.wav' format. the disadvantage is larger file size, of course.

    check out this article (link wont work; see EDIT)..it breaks it down in pretty simple terms and goes thru the differences of the various formats. the article was published back in '04, but its still relevent.

    EDIT:for some reason it wont load the page right with a direct link. instead i have to link you this google search page and youll have to click on the 4th result down the list: "PC Today Article - Digital Audio Primer". then it will load the page.
     
    Last edited: Apr 18, 2007
  13. Ranger SVO

    Ranger SVO Full Member

    But again with Ipod having 80 Gig harddrive, space is no longer a major problem. I still use MP3 because I am familiar with it. But the .wav file is a great format.
     
  14. double b26

    double b26 Full Member

    i hear you ranger. i use mp3 or wma, but focalenthusiast was asking about a cd-quality format. .wav offers that, but the files are a bit bigger. about 80mb per 5 minutes. which you are right, storage is becoming less of a concern b/c ipods and mp3 players are packing in more gb's every year. but still, the portables are just temorary storage, more or less. you can always erase a few things and make space for new. but on the pc, (i speak for myself here), i dont want to have to erase stuff. so storage is an issue there. if i can pack a lot more songs on there, and just lose a little bit of fidelity, im cool with that. but if you want the top quality, its going to cost you (in storage space, not money).

    so to sum it up, i think the cd will be out of use (or at least not used on the scale it is now) within 10 years, probably less. the only issue, i think, is the quality of the formats used right now. if they could get somethig that sounded as good, or better than cd's, and compress it to a decent size, people would jump all over it. hell, people are already all over the ipods and stuff, so really, they could prbably just wait it out. but if they addressed the quality, everyone would flock. ipods just more convenient than messing with cds.

    and what about that hd-audio or whatever it is?? you guys heard of that?
     
  15. pedro quiroga

    pedro quiroga Well-Known Member

    Also, I have NEVER had a customer that has been able to tell the difference between the Ipod and the CD player.
    "RANGER SVO"


    i too can not tell the diff either.although it took me some time to tweek my HU's eq for that to happen.i love my ipod.also i dont remember the last time I used a cd either.

    with all my music in one location i dont have to fumble with a cd case either.really it is safer.i cant tell you how many times i almost ran myself off the road looking for a cd.

    one could get a changer,but whats the most you could hold 12 cd's.also its so nice to be able to take it with you.

    i know some will argue it's not true cd quality."cough cough viking cough"lol.

    the only other way would be to have a changer with your favorite tunes.then you'll have the best of both worlds.
     
  16. FocalEnthusiast

    FocalEnthusiast Full Member

    I actually own one of the PhatNoise/Kenwood Music Kegs. It worked decent at first (allowed you to select exact cd copies, or downgrade into different bit/rates.) The user-interface was crap, and full quality CD's took up a huge amount of space. The unit eventually stopped having a working rightchannel signal, so now it's dead and still in my car. (Waiting to take it out, it's in a tough spot.)

    I still do not own an ipod, or download music. I used to in high-school, but to me, the sound-quality loss is always noticeable. I am almost always listening on pretty high-end equipment, which definately points out all flaws in recording. The group of people minded like this in car-audio is probably pretty small, and shrinking all the time. It's a shame, I do almost all of my listening when in the car, and want the highest fidelity sound possible. I've heard of "loss-less" sound for digital recordings, but not sure what it means, or how the quality really is.
     
  17. Ranger SVO

    Ranger SVO Full Member

    FocalEnthusiast, check out this link
    http://www.audiograbber.com-us.net/boards/ubb/Forum1/HTML/004782.html

    It took me a while to figure out the best settings, so far these are great. I make one other adjustment to my MP3 files before they are loaded. I adjust the volume level of the file using MP3 Gain.

    Audiograbber and the Lame Encoder are free downloads
     
  18. Ranger SVO

    Ranger SVO Full Member


    Maybe this will help


    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Audio_data_compression
     
  19. electrolytic

    electrolytic Full Member

    although i hate ipods now, and will probably never buy another, I'm keeping itunes software because it allows all kinds of converting that's not possible even with windows media player which is in my opinion the best decoder encoder besides itunes now.. You can acheive wma files with qualitys of around 960 - 1200 kbps.

    The wave file is what's on storebought cds so that is the best quality above all. Roughly 1200 - 1400 kbps. I can hear the difference with mp3 320kbps , my system just doesn't have that bottom end fullness. but with my Iriver player it's only 5 gig so i ripped them with windows media player as mp3s 320 kbps and got 435 songs on there.

    Otherwise if i had a 20 gig mp3 player i would use windows media player and rip as windows media lossless which gives you 960-1200 kbps, depends on the original source of music. No other encoder decoder can acheive these qualities that i have seen. These opinions and views on this subject are only my opinion and does not reflect this site or it's inhabitants. haha:)