rockford t1 vs mtx 8500 vs kicker l7

how much do you wanna spend?? What amp do you have??

Have you upgraded your big three??

 

ditch the cap....sell it. It hurts more than it works...which is non because caps don't really work...read the sticky about caps.

Upgrade your big three (sticky in the electrical section)

Hell I'll be nice and post them for you
Caps
http://www.caraudiotalk.com/audio-forum/showthread.php?t=4204
Big Three
http://www.caraudiotalk.com/audio-forum/showthread.php?t=3987

How much do you wanna spend though??

 

the kicker L5 or L7 10.mine is in a 2.25 cu ft box and really gets nasty with rap,and sounds good with jazz and blues.
http://cgi.ebay.com/KICKER-VS10L5-S...9QQihZ004QQcategoryZ39772QQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem

the price is right.i payed 218 at curcut city for the same sub.

 

Screw ebay and everyone that sells their crap on it!!!!

 

Overall best??? It really depends on the type of enclosure and tuning and such...but really first we need to establish how much you wanna spend.

There are a lot of variables...different woofers work well in different type and sized enclosures...and Viking's favorite variable...SENSITIVITY!!!!

 

how do you get 800 rms from a 300x2 max amp

 

where is your actual birthsheet though. I see what you are saying though they are basically cheater amps.

 

ugh, i should have kept that mtx8001 i had, it came with a birth certificate of 760 watts rms, even though it needed repair.

 

it is a cheater amp...bridges down to two ohms

 

Can you define Cheater Amp for me lol

 

basically an amp that puts out some good power at 4 ohms but puts out a hell of a lot more at 2 and 1 ohm loads.

I'm not sure but some competitions put you in classes depending on the amps output at 4 ohms....so say you can be in a low wattage class of with a max rms of 300 watts at 4 ohms....but at 1 ohms the amp can put out 900 watts....not really sure if this is true but this is what I think it means

I'm not really into competitions so I don't really know lol

 

Ya, thats the basics of it Azn....Prime example, the good ol Orion 225 HCCA

Rated at 25 watts per channel at 4 ohms at 12 volts. Will do a rated 400 watts mon at 1/2 an ohm. at 12 volts.....

Not supposed to do it, but run that baby at 1/4 ohm, at 15 volts and LOOK OUT!!!!! YEEEEEE HAWWWWWW!!!!!! Change out a diode in the power supply, and HOLY MOTHER OF JESUS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Of course you do that stuff, and it becomes incredibly unstable. It is like a top fuel Drag car engine, will pretty much need rebuilt after each run at full volume/throttle!!! Boy they make some relly cool rattle toys whenthe outputs explode!!!!

 

Viking is the reason the old orions were able to handle that low of an impedance was because the power supplies were unregulated or what??

 

Not ALL the Orion amps were capable of the low impedance loads.

The reason they could do this, just like alot of other amps is due to thefact that the power supply is at a lower voltage.

Example, take an 225 hcca and a 275 sx orion, side by side. Bothe boards, other than color, look virtually identical. the difference in them is the facct that the power supply in the HCCA puts out less voltage than the SX series. This enables the ouputs to handle lower impedances, therefore kicking out more power the lower the load is, without launching itselff into next week. The SX series has higher voltage on its power supply rails, there fore letting it do 75 watts per channel as opposed to the 24 watts per channel of the 225 hcca, both at 4 ohms.

The unlimited power supplies are essentially a power supply that lets the amp kick out more power/voltage in its power supply, thehigher the input voltage is. i have run old Orion amps as high as 19 volts i believe it was, before they shut down due to over voltage.