Trouble with remote starter

Discussion in 'Car Alarm, Remote Start and other Accessories.' started by lostone1413, Dec 16, 2006.

  1. lostone1413

    lostone1413 New Member

    I have a 1999 Chevy Truck. I had Sound Pro put in a Remote Starter for me. They put in a Valet Model 562t starter. This was put in less then a year ago. Twice my truck got to where it wouldn't start with the key. I took it to the Chevy Dealer. They said it was some type of module that went out. This happened twice between both time it cost about $1500.00 What they told me was with all the electronics in the cars and trucks a lot of times the Remote Starter will mess the system up. I never had trouble with the truck not starting until they put the starter in. I was wondering a few things.

    1- Is it true with the newer cars and trucks that a Remote Starter will mess them up like what happened to my truck?

    2- Is the Valet Model 562t Remote starter any good or is it a junk Remote?

    3- Best Buys has a Viper you think if I put in a Viper i'd have a better remote starter that wouldn't knock out the modules in my truck?

    I reall like the remote starter but if they are known to do this with the electronics in the newer cars and trucks I guess i'll have to do without.

    Thanks Chuck (Arizona)
     
  2. Ranger SVO

    Ranger SVO Full Member

    Without seeing the install, I can only guess at whats going on. GM's of that era used an anti theft system called Passlock II. It must be bypassed (during remote start ONLY) properly or there will be problems. Many installer cheat here by either bypassing the anti-theft system all together or they do not solder these connections. Either way there will be a problem.

    Bypassing factory security is not rocket science but it must be done correctly. It must still function correctly after the remote start is in.

    Your system is easy to bypass, requiring only 2-relays and a resister of the correct value. (resister value needs to be checked for each car). Now this bypass can be done with one relay but there will be problems. And no installer that knows what he is doing will cheat here.

    I am going to assume that the person that installed your remote start has no clue.

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    Last edited: Dec 16, 2006
  3. aznboi3644

    aznboi3644 Full Member

    Damn Ranger...you never cease to amaze me by all of your damn knowledge lol
     
  4. Ranger SVO

    Ranger SVO Full Member

    I do this for a living, remember
     
  5. pedro quiroga

    pedro quiroga Well-Known Member

    hey ranger .quick rem start question.when i use my rem start it blows the fuse for the alarm after 5 sec. i've taken it in twice for the same thing.what do you think can be the prob? i am going to take it in when i have time.maybe monday.

    any idea's? its a python alarm/rem start.from C city.
     
  6. TheViking

    TheViking Well-Known Member

    Is the power wire for the alarm also powering up an ignition/power source for the remote start? thats the first thing i would check for.


    Sounds like a poor install..........
     
  7. pedro quiroga

    pedro quiroga Well-Known Member

    yes i think so.also after the 2nd visit the installer wired the rem start to the batt directly.its a rem start/alrm
     
  8. pedro quiroga

    pedro quiroga Well-Known Member

    got to go vik.

    my sis is in town and she just got home.will talk tomorrow.

    the alarm works 100%,but when i try to rem start it blows.

    ????????????i'm fraking ****ed.i just got a VOM.how can i test it?
     
  9. Ranger SVO

    Ranger SVO Full Member

    Many remote start modules have more than one power wire, mine actually has three. Some installers cheat here by putting the three wires together and then running one to the constant source.

    The right way is to run each wire individually to the battery. Remember that the remote start module turns on every ignition and accessory line. Heaters, fans, stereos, and whatever else is on also turns on. Thats a lot of current for a single 30 or 40 amp fuse.

    With out seeing the install I can only guess at the problem
     
  10. lostone1413

    lostone1413 New Member

    Thanks Ranger for all the help. Next week i'm going to take the truck to another garage that puts in alarms. I'll have them check how this one was put in against the diagram you posted. To bad your not in Arizona. I'd be being my truck to you. Thanks Again
     
  11. Ranger SVO

    Ranger SVO Full Member

    Also have the resistor value checked, while the car will start with as much as a 10% error, NO more than a 2% error is recommended.

    Last year we had a complaint similar to yours. A customer had a remote start installed in some foriegn country (I think they called it Oklahoma). The car wouldn't start. The dealer had it towed to our shop. We found the install to be OK, but the resistor value was wrong. We replaced the resistor, reset the passlock computer, and it fired right up.

    Hope you get it fixed right
     
  12. Ranger SVO

    Ranger SVO Full Member

    How to test for correct resister value

    First we cut the yellow wire, with an accurate meter, place one lead on the yellow wire (the one that goes toward the ignition switch) and the other on the orange/black wire. Turn the ignition switch to "run", record the reading. Now turn the switch to start and then immediately back to "run". In a perfect world both readings will be the same, if not use the second value.

    Anyway good luck
     
  13. pedro quiroga

    pedro quiroga Well-Known Member

    ok mine only turns on the daytime lightsand the a/c if i have it on.but not the radio.
     
  14. Ranger SVO

    Ranger SVO Full Member

    Mine also does not turn on the radio, I did not hook up that line. My opinion is that the radio does not need to warm up. However most installers pull up all the lines and in some cars it is necessary, in some its not.

    Ford Tauras would be a good example, all the ignition and accessory wires need to turn on. The fan for the Heat/AC is on the accessory wire. There are other cars with weird have to's.